Cecelia Ann Shepard, Autopsy Report.

Twenty-year-old Bryan Calvin Hartnell and twenty-two-year-old Cecelia Ann Shepard were both stabbed on September 27, 1969, at Lake Berryessa in Napa County; Hartnell survived eight stab wounds to the back, but Shepard died as a result of her injuries on September 29, 1969.

The couple had been enjoying a picnic at Lake Berryessa by Twin Oak Ridge when Cecelia noticed a man close by acting strangely: he had been observed taking refuge behind a tree and had been dressed in a black executioner’s hood and a waistline bib that was decorated with the Zodiac crossed circle; he was also wearing a pair of clip-on sunglasses. He then approached the young couple pointing a gun, to which Cecelia would alert Bryan with the words, ‘oh my God he’s gotta gun!’

Shepard later recalled these details to Deputy Dave Collins after she was attacked, and in an interview, Collins would later said she told him that, ‘Brian and I were here on the blanket, down by the water and we’re just enjoying the afternoon having a nice time talking and I saw this guy, he was coming down the hillside and he seemed to stop and watch us, looking at us.’ Collins asked her, ‘what distance, how far away was he?’ to which she pointed to an area; in response the deputy said, ‘that’s about 200-300 yards away,’ and she nodded then added, ‘that’s where I first saw him.’

It is suspected they are victims of the notorious Zodiac Killer.

Cecelia Ann Shepard.
Cecelia.
Cecelia Shepard and her mom just a few months before her murder.
A picture from the crime scene of theThe Zodiac Killer’s Lake Berryessa attack that took place on September 27, 1969. 

Page one of Cecelia Ann Shepard’s autopsy report.

Page two of Cecelia Ann Shepard’s autopsy report.
Page three of Cecelia Ann Shepard’s autopsy report.
Bryan Hartnell.
Part one of the conversation between Bryan Hartnell’s and the Zodiac Killer on September 27, 1969 in Lake Berryessa.
Part two of the conversation between Bryan Hartnell’s and the Zodiac Killer on September 27, 1969 in Lake Berryessa.

Theodore Robert Bundy vs. Richard L. Duggar (Secretary, Department of Corrections), July 7, 1988.

Theodore Robert Bundy, Petitioner-Appellant versus Richard L. Dugger, Secretary, Department of Corrections, State of Florida, Respondent-Appellee. No. 86-3773.
United States Court of Appeals,
Eleventh Circuit.
July 7, 1988.
Polly Nelson, Wilmer, Cutler and Pickering, James E. Coleman, Jr., John Byron Sandage, Andrew James Munro, Washington, D.C., for petitioner-appellant.
850 F.2d 1402
Mark Menser, Asst. Atty. Gen. of Fla., Dept. of Legal Affairs, Tallahassee, Fla., Raymond L. Marky, John M. Koenig, Jr., Asst. Attys. Gen., Tallahassee, Fla., for respondent-appellee.
Appeal from the United States District Court for the Middle District of Florida.
Before Vance, Kravitch, and Johnson, Circuit Judges.

JOHNSON, Circuit Judge:

Theodore Robert Bundy was convicted and sentenced to death in Florida for the murder of Kimberly Leach.1 On direct appeal, the Florida Supreme Court affirmed the conviction and sentence. Bundy v. State, 471 So.2d 9 (Fla.1985), cert. denied, 479 U.S. 894, 107 S.Ct. 295, 93 L.Ed.2d 269 (1986). The Governor of Florida signed a death warrant scheduling Bundy’s execution for November 18, 1986. On November 17, Bundy was unsuccessful in state post-conviction and habeas corpus proceedings. Bundy v. State, 497 So.2d 1209 (Fla.1986).

Bundy immediately filed an application for a stay of execution, a petition for a writ of habeas corpus, and an application for a certificate of probable cause with the United States District Court for the Middle District of Florida. On November 17, the district court, having reviewed the trial record in advance, dismissed the petition without a hearing and denied the applications for a stay of execution and for a certificate of probable cause. Bundy v. Wainwright, No. 86-968-CIV-ORL-18 (M.D.Fla. Nov. 17, 1986). This Court subsequently granted a certificate of probable cause and a stay of execution pending appeal.

After briefing and oral argument, this Court remanded the case to the district court for the limited purpose of conducting an evidentiary hearing into Bundy’s competence to stand trial. Bundy v. Dugger, 816 F.2d 564 (11th Cir.), cert. denied, — U.S. —-, 108 S.Ct. 198, 98 L.Ed.2d 149 (1987). On remand, the district court conducted an evidentiary hearing and concluded that Bundy was competent to stand trial. Bundy v. Dugger, 675 F.Supp. 622 (M.D.Fla.1987). This Court ordered supplemental briefing on the competence to stand trial issue and heard oral argument.

I. Abuse of the Writ: We expressly state at the outset a conclusion implicit in the earlier decision of a limited remand: Bundy’s first federal habeas corpus petition should not be dismissed for abuse of the writ. Typically, ‘abuse of the writ’ principles apply to second or successive petitions that present claims that were raised, or that could have been raised, in previous petitions. Although this is Bundy’s first petition, the district court considered the petition abusive:

At approximately 2:30 PM on November 17, 1986, sixteen and one half hours prior to the time Mr. Bundy is scheduled to be executed, the petitioner filed a 183-page petition for writ of habeas corpus asking this Court to stay the execution and grant relief to the petitioner. This Court considers the petition filed under these conditions to be abusive.

We disagree.2 Even assuming arguendo that a first petition could be dismissed as an abuse of the writ because it was filed on the eve of execution,3 this case does not present an abusive situation. The United States Supreme Court denied certiorari review of Bundy’s direct appeal on October 14, 1986. On October 21, the Governor of Florida signed a death warrant scheduling Bundy’s execution for November 18. Bundy began state postconviction and habeas proceedings on November 7 and those proceedings concluded on November 17. Bundy then filed his federal petition. Under these facts, the filing on the eve of execution does not constitute abuse of the writ.

II. Competence to Stand Trial: As set forth above, the district court, after a limited remand from this Court, conducted an evidentiary hearing and concluded that Bundy was competent to stand trial. Bundy v. Dugger, 675 F.Supp. 622 (M.D.Fla.1987). We begin our analysis by setting forth the applicable legal standards central to our review of the district court’s conclusion. First, ‘the legal test for mental competency is whether, at the time of trial and sentencing, the petitioner had ‘sufficient present ability to consult with his lawyer with a reasonable degree of rational understanding’ and whether he had ‘a rational as well as factual understanding of the proceedings against him.’ Adams v. Wainwright, 764 F.2d 1356, 1359-60 (11th Cir.1985) (quoting Dusky v. United States, 362 U.S. 402, 402, 80 S.Ct. 788, 789, 4 L.Ed.2d 824 (1960)), cert. denied, 474 U.S. 1073, 106 S.Ct. 834, 88 L.Ed.2d 805 (1986). Second, Bundy had the burden of proof on remand: ‘At the ensuing district court hearing, petitioner [the defendant] bears the burden of proving the fact of incompetency by a preponderance of the evidence.’ Price v. Wainwright, 759 F.2d 1549, 1553 (11th Cir.1985) (citing Zapata v. Estelle, 585 F.2d 750, 752 (5th Cir.1978) (en banc)). Third, the standard of appellate review provides:

Before the court can meaningfully apply [the Dusky ] legal standard … it must often ascertain the nature of petitioner’s allegedly incapacitating illness. It is at this initial juncture that expert testimony is particularly valuable, for the existence of even a severe psychiatric defect is not always apparent to laymen. Because of this difficulty in detecting medical diseases, the trial court may find it necessary to make an initial factfinding on whether the accused suffers from a mental defect at all. Although sometimes dispositive of the ultimate competency question, this medical inquiry is properly classified as pure fact finding and reviewable only under the clearly erroneous standard.

Once it is established that an individual suffers from a clinically recognized disorder, the court must decide whether such condition rendered the accused incompetent under the Dusky formulation…. This second stage determination of legal incompetency is subject to a review more stringent than the clearly erroneous rule. To insure protection of valuable constitutional rights, this court is bound to take a hard look at the ultimate competency ‘finding.’

Bruce suggests that a district court’s determination of competency should proceed in two parts: (1) Does the defendant suffer from a clinically recognized disorder? and (2) if so, did that disorder render the defendant incompetent under the Dusky standard? In the present case, Bundy argued that he suffered from bipolar mood disorder.6 Although the district court did not segregate its analysis as suggested by Bruce, our reading of the district court’s opinion, particularly the conclusion,7 indicates that the district court determined that, even if Bundy otherwise suffered from bipolar mood disorder, the disorder was not manifesting itself so as to affect his competence to stand trial. Consequently, pursuant to Bruce, we take a ‘hard look’ at the ultimate competency ‘finding.’

Bundy argues that, although he had a factual understanding of the proceedings against him, he lacked a rational understanding of those proceedings and a rational understanding necessary to consult with his lawyer. We have undertaken a detailed review of the record and given a ‘hard look’ to the district court’s conclusion of ‘competency.’ Based upon the record evidence of the testimony (including depositions) at the evidentiary hearing and the associated exhibits, we hold that the district court’s findings of historical fact were not clearly erroneous, see Amadeo v. Zant, — U.S. —-, 108 S.Ct. 1771, 100 L.Ed.2d 249 (1988), and thus we will not reiterate the district court’s findings here. We do, however, highlight the record evidence that leads us to conclude, after a ‘hard look,’ that Bundy was competent to stand trial.

Dr. Dorothy Lewis and Dr. Emanuel Tanay, both psychiatrists, testified9 that Bundy was incompetent to stand trial. Dr. Charles Mutter and Dr. Umesh Mhatre, both psychiatrists, testified in rebuttal for the State. The district court credited the testimony of Drs. Mutter and Mhatre. We agree with the district court’s observation that their testimony better accorded with the testimony of other witnesses and the associated exhibits.10

For example, Judge Wallace Jopling, the presiding judge at the Lake City trial, and prosecutors George Dekle and Jerry Blair testified about Bundy’s actions at trial. This testimony indicates that Bundy’s actions were inconsistent with the actions of a person manifesting bipolar mood disorder.

In addition, the exhibits from the hearing, largely ignored by Bundy in his supplemental brief, indicate that Bundy was competent to stand trial. The videotape of Bundy’s argument to Judge Jopling prior to sentencing shows that Bundy delivered a cogent, well-reasoned argument. Bundy focused on the effect of pretrial publicity on the jury and argued that the jury was overwhelmed more by the quantity, than the quality, of the state’s evidence. Bundy can be seen flipping pages of a legal pad as he goes through his argument.

The tapes made by Bundy12 while awaiting the verdict and shortly after the verdict strongly demonstrate that Bundy had a rational understanding of the proceedings. For example, on tape I (recorded while the jury was deliberating), Bundy describes his displeasure at one of the trial judge’s instructions, evaluates some of the evidence against him, and criticizes the state’s closing argument for referring to facts not in evidence. On tape G (recorded two hours after the jury returned its guilty verdict), Bundy recalls that after closing argument he bet members of the defense team that the jury would be back within three hours with a guilty verdict: ‘I was attempting to protect myself–insulate myself from the terribly harsh consequences of a guilty verdict….’ On that tape, Bundy recalls evaluating the trial proceedings: ‘I can remember throughout the course of the trial, my counsel, myself, speculating on the reactions of jurors to state witnesses, the reactions of jurors to defense witnesses, speculating on the ineffectiveness of certain state witnesses, and the convincing qualities of our witnesses.’ On tape H (recorded on the morning after the jury returned its guilty verdict), Bundy describes how, when he woke up that morning, ‘I immediately began thinking about the statements I’m going to make to the jury during the penalty phase and the statements I’m going to make to the judge when he sentences me. Right now my concern lies with just what the tenor of those comments should be.’ Consequently, a ‘hard look’ at the record evidence supports the conclusion that Bundy was competent to stand trial.

III. Choice of Counsel: Bundy argues that he was denied his Sixth Amendment right to choice of counsel. This claim overlaps with Bundy’s claim that his counsel provided ineffective assistance of counsel by failing to raise this claim on direct appeal. Shortly after his indictment, Bundy asked the trial court to grant the motion of Georgia attorney Millard Farmer to be admitted pro hac vice. The trial court denied the motion after conducting an evidentiary hearing and allowing oral argument. See State v. Bundy, No. 78-169-CF (Fla.Cir.Ct.Columbia County Sept. 22, 1978) (Jopling, J.) (R. 14,117; vol. 156, app. 37).14 On direct appeal, Bundy did not claim that he was denied the counsel of his choice. Bundy then raised this claim in state postconviction proceedings. The Florida Supreme Court found this claim procedurally barred because it could have been raised on direct appeal. See Bundy, 497 So.2d at 1210. The Court also found Bundy’s related ineffective assistance of appellate counsel claim to be without merit. Id. at 1211.

Bundy then raised the choice of counsel claim and the related ineffective assistance of appellate counsel claim in his federal habeas corpus petition. The district court determined that the choice of counsel claim was procedurally defaulted, see slip op. at 9, and the related ineffective assistance of counsel claim was not a basis for relief because the district court had denied relief on the merits of the choice of counsel claim.15

We conclude that Bundy’s failure to raise the choice of counsel claim on direct appeal constitutes procedural default. See Murray v. Carrier, 477 U.S. 478, 106 S.Ct. 2639, 91 L.Ed.2d 397 (1986). Consequently, Bundy must show both cause for noncompliance with the state rule and actual prejudice resulting from the alleged constitutional violation. Smith v. Murray, 477 U.S. 527, 533, 106 S.Ct. 2661, 2665, 91 L.Ed.2d 434 (1986).

Bundy contends that ineffective assistance of his appellate counsel satisfies the cause requirement.16 See Carrier, 477 U.S. at 488, 106 S.Ct. at 2646 (‘Ineffective assistance of counsel … is cause for a procedural default.’). We disagree as we do not find Bundy’s counsel ineffective.17 The Supreme Court’s decision in Smith informs our analysis. The Supreme Court reasoned that, when viewed in light of state law at the time of direct appeal, the decision not to raise the claim ‘fell well within the ‘wide range of professionally competent assistance’ required under the Sixth Amendment to the Federal Constitution.’ Smith, 477 U.S. at 536, 106 S.Ct. at 2667 (quoting Strickland v. Washington, 466 U.S. 668, 690, 104 S.Ct. 2052, 2066, 80 L.Ed.2d 674 (1984)); see id. at 535, 106 S.Ct. at 2667 (‘Nor can it seriously be maintained that the decision not to press the claim on appeal was an error of such magnitude that it rendered counsel’s performance constitutionally deficient under the test of Strickland v. Washington, 466 U.S. 668 [104 S.Ct. 2052, 80 L.Ed.2d 674] (1984)’); see also Jones v. Barnes, 463 U.S. 745, 751-54, 103 S.Ct. 3308, 3312-14, 77 L.Ed.2d 987 (1983) (recognizing that appellate counsel needs latitude in selecting issues to raise on appeal).

In his direct appeal in the Leon County case, which antedated the direct appeal in the present case, Bundy raised the choice of counsel claim and the Florida Supreme Court found it without merit. See Bundy v. State, 455 So.2d 330, 347-48 (Fla.1984).18 Consequently, pursuant to Smith, Bundy’s counsel was not ineffective for not raising the choice of counsel claim on direct appeal.19 Finally, this is not ‘an extraordinary case’ where the writ should be granted even absent a showing of cause.

IV. Ineffective Assistance of Counsel: Bundy argues that he received ineffective assistance of counsel at trial on a number of grounds. The Florida Supreme Court, see Bundy, 497 So.2d at 1210, and the district court, see slip op. at 9-12, held this claim without merit. We affirm the district court because none of the asserted grounds satisfies both the performance and prejudice prongs enunciated by Strickland v. Washington, 466 U.S. 668, 104 S.Ct. 2052, 80 L.Ed.2d 674 (1984).

Bundy first complains of ineffectiveness of trial counsel in relation to the investigation concerning fiber evidence, the hearing on the motion in limine to exclude such evidence, the failure to object to the conclusions testified to by the state’s expert witness, and the failure to have a defense expert testify regarding the fibers. We have reviewed the record evidence and, particularly based upon the cross-examination regarding the source of the van’s carpet, the users of the van, and the clothes worn in the van; the arguments on the motion in limine; the cross-examination of the state’s expert, and the examination of witnesses recalled as part of the defense’s presentation, we conclude that Bundy has failed to satisfy Strickland ‘s performance prong. In addition, in ruling on this claim in the state postconviction proceeding, the trial court stated that it would have permitted the evidence anyhow. Consequently, it does not appear that the prejudice prong was met.

Bundy next argues that he received ineffective assistance of counsel in connection with the plea agreement. A review of the record again demonstrates that Bundy has not satisfied the performance prong. In addition, Bundy asserts that counsel had to disclose damaging information to the state in the course of negotiations. Bundy does not allege what that information was or whether it was used at trial. Consequently, this assertion does not raise a colorable showing of prejudice sufficient to trigger an evidentiary hearing.

Bundy next claims that he received ineffective assistance of counsel because no evidence was presented at the penalty phase of trial that he was suffering from a mental disorder. As a related claim, Bundy argues that he was denied effective assistance of counsel by counsel’s failure to investigate an insanity defense. The record indicates an insanity defense was investigated and that Bundy rejected any suggestion that such a defense be presented. In addition, Bundy would not admit complicity of the crimes upon which he was convicted. Based upon Bundy’s actions and the actual presentation at the penalty phase, we cannot say that Bundy has satisfied the performance prong. The record also indicates that, even if such evidence were presented, the state could produce countering evidence and thus, in light of the aggravating circumstances, no prejudice resulted.

Finally, Bundy argues that he received ineffective assistance of counsel because no challenge was made to the use of prior convictions as aggravating circumstances. Bundy does not suggest any basis for a challenge to the Utah convictions. We cannot say that Bundy has satisfied the performance prong as to his Leon County convictions. That conclusion is buttressed by the Florida Supreme Court’s subsequent affirmance of those convictions. In addition, we do not believe Bundy has satisfied the prejudice prong. Three aggravating circumstances remain independent of the Leon County convictions.

V. Faretta Inquiry: Bundy claims that the trial court failed to conduct a proper inquiry into whether he should have been allowed to represent himself during critical stages of the prosecution. Faretta v. California, 422 U.S. 806, 95 S.Ct. 2525, 45 L.Ed.2d 562 (1975). This claim overlaps with Bundy’s claim that his counsel provided ineffective assistance of counsel by failing to raise this claim on direct appeal.

On September 21, 1978, after the trial court orally denied the motion for Farmer to appear pro hac vice, the trial court asked Bundy if he had other counsel to represent him. In relevant part, Bundy replied:

[S]eeing that the Court in its wisdom has denied me representation by Mr. Farmer, I will proceed pro se.

In the first instance, I guess I should ask for leave to proceed in proper person and submit in support of my motion the case of Anthony Pasquale Faretta versus the State of California 42 U.S. 806 [95 S.Ct. 2525, 45 L.Ed.2d 562], case decided in 1975.

Supp. R3:144-45 (footnote omitted). The trial court permitted Bundy to proceed pro se. Subsequently, at the request of the state’s attorney, the trial court asked Bundy what education he had. Bundy replied in relevant part:

I have a Bachelor of Science in Psychology from the University of Washington and two years of law school. I think, however, if the Court will read Faretta, the United States Supreme Court has said that the legal background or legal training of a defendant who wishes to represent himself is not an issue. If the man or woman wishes to represent himself or herself, understandingly, knowingly and voluntarily expresses the desire to do so, he or she may exercise that Sixth Amendment right applied to the States through the Fourteenth Amendment and so I don’t really think that an inquiry into my background, beyond my stating that I knowingly and voluntarily and understandingly take this step, is necessary.

Id. at 147-48. On June 21, 1979, Bundy withdrew his waiver of counsel and accepted Victor Africano as his attorney in the Lake City case. R157:14,383. Africano served as Bundy’s attorney from that pre-trial point to the conclusion of the direct appeal. On direct appeal, Bundy did not claim he was denied a proper Faretta hearing. Bundy then raised this claim in state postconviction proceedings. The Florida Supreme Court held:

We find that the appellant’s fourth claim [i.e., the Faretta inquiry] could have been raised on direct appeal and is therefore barred from consideration. Even if we were to examine the claim, however, we would find it lacking in substance. The trial court conducted an inquiry into appellant’s ability to act as his own counsel prior to allowing him to represent himself, and during this inquiry appellant himself alerted the trial court to the teachings of Faretta. We may not now reverse the trial court’s finding of appellant’s ability to pursue his own representation.

Bundy, 497 So.2d at 1210. The Court also found Bundy’s related ineffective assistance of appellate counsel claim to be without merit. Id. at 1211. Although the state asserted before the district court that the Faretta inquiry claim was subject to the procedural default doctrine, the district court did not mention that doctrine but rather concluded that Bundy was not entitled to relief on the merits.

On appeal, the state renews its argument that the claim is subject to the procedural default doctrine. When it is clear that a state court is addressing a particular claim (i.e., the Florida Supreme Court’s reference to ‘the appellant’s fourth claim’) and the state court expressly states that the claim is barred from consideration, we conclude that the state court has not excused the procedural default when it proceeds alternatively and hypothetically to address the merits of the claim. Consequently, we conclude that Bundy’s failure to raise the Faretta inquiry claim on direct appeal constitutes procedural default. See Murray v. Carrier, supra. Bundy thus must show both cause for noncompliance with the state rule and actual prejudice resulting from the alleged constitutional violation.

Bundy again contends that ineffective assistance of his appellate counsel satisfies the cause requirement.20 See Carrier, 477 U.S. at 488, 106 S.Ct. at 2646 (‘Ineffective assistance of counsel … is cause for a procedural default’). Again, we rely on the Supreme Court’s analysis in Smith to conclude that Bundy has not met the cause requirement. In light of Bundy’s citation of the Faretta decision to the trial court, his comments to the trial court, and Africano’s serving as Bundy’s attorney from well before trial to the conclusion of direct appeal, ‘the decision not to press the claim on appeal was [not] an error of such magnitude that it rendered counsel’s performance constitutionally deficient.’ 21 Smith, 477 U.S. at 535, 106 S.Ct. at 2667; see also Jones v. Barnes, 463 U.S. 745, 751-54, 103 S.Ct. 3308, 3312-14, 77 L.Ed.2d 987 (1983) (recognizing that appellate counsel needs latitude in selecting issues to raise on appeal).

Alternatively, if the procedural default doctrine did not preclude us from examining the merits of the Faretta inquiry claim, we would conclude that Bundy was not entitled to relief on this ground. This Circuit generally requires that a trial judge conduct a waiver hearing to make sure that the accused understands the risks of proceeding pro se. See Jackson v. James, 839 F.2d 1513, 1516 (11th Cir.1988) and cases cited therein. In the present case, the passage quoted above indicates that the trial court did not inform Bundy of the disadvantages of proceeding pro se. Bundy, however, cited Faretta to the trial court and asserted that he was ‘knowingly and voluntarily and understandingly taking this step.’ We do not decide whether these facts constitute a ‘rare’ case in which an exception to the hearing requirement will be made. See Fitzpatrick v. Wainwright, 800 F.2d 1057, 1064-68 (11th Cir.1986). Rather, we conclude that any error by the trial court was harmless. As set forth above, well before trial in the Lake City case, Bundy accepted Victor Africano as his attorney. Africano served as Bundy’s attorney from that point to the conclusion of direct appeal. Accordingly, the Faretta inquiry claim and the related ineffective assistance of appellate counsel claim are without merit.

VI. Race of the Victim: Bundy argues that the Florida death penalty is unconstitutionally applied because it is disproportionately imposed in cases, such as the present case, where the victim is white. On collateral review, the Florida Supreme Court held that this claim was without merit. See Bundy, 497 So.2d at 1210-11. Consequently, the procedural default doctrine does not apply.

The district court also held that this claim was without merit. On appeal, Bundy argues that the district court erred in denying him an evidentiary hearing on this claim. We disagree. Bundy relies solely on studies allegedly showing systematic discrimination on the basis of the victim’s race. This Court repeatedly has rejected these studies as grounds for an evidentiary hearing or relief. See Funchess v. Wainwright, 788 F.2d 1443, 1445-46 (11th Cir.), cert. denied, 475 U.S. 1133, 106 S.Ct. 1668, 90 L.Ed.2d 208 (1986); Thomas v. Wainwright, 767 F.2d 738, 747-48 (11th Cir.1985), cert. denied, 475 U.S. 1031, 106 S.Ct. 1241, 89 L.Ed.2d 349 (1986), and cases cited therein. In addition, Bundy points to no evidence that the decision makers in his case acted with discriminatory purpose.

VII. Hypnotically Refreshed Testimony: Bundy argues that the use of Clarence L. ‘Andy’ Anderson’s hypnotically enhanced testimony violated his Sixth Amendment right to confrontation and his Fourteenth Amendment due process right to a fair trial.22 Anderson was the state’s only eyewitness to the abduction of Kimberly Leach on February 9, 1978. On July 18, 1978, Anderson first went to the police because the profile of a person he had seen on a television newscast bore a striking resemblance to the man he had earlier observed with a girl near the Lake City Junior High School. Anderson was hypnotized twice in order to enhance his recollection. After conducting a hearing and taking testimony, the trial court denied Bundy’s pretrial motion to suppress Anderson’s testimony. The denial was without prejudice to Bundy’s right to object at trial to specific portions of that testimony. At trial, Anderson made an in-court identification of Bundy as closely resembling the man he saw and, from a photograph introduced into evidence, identified Kimberly Leach as the girl.

On direct appeal, the Florida Supreme Court held ‘that hypnotically refreshed testimony is per se inadmissible in a criminal trial in this state, but hypnosis does not render a witness incompetent to testify to those facts demonstrably recalled prior to hypnosis. Relying on harmless-constitutional-error cases of the United States Supreme Court, the Florida Supreme Court went on to conclude that the admission of Anderson’s hypnotically refreshed testimony was harmless error.23 Id. at 19. The district court held this claim without merit.

We first address Bundy’s claim that admission of Anderson’s testimony violated the Confrontation Clause of the Sixth Amendment. In Rock v. Arkansas, 107 S.Ct. 2704, 97 L.Ed.2d 37 (1987), the Supreme Court held that a state’s per se rule excluding hypnotically refreshed testimony impermissibly infringed on a criminal defendant’s right to testify. Although the Supreme Court expressly did not address the issue presented here. Its reasoning informs our analysis. The Court stated that ‘it has not been shown that hypnotically enhanced testimony is always so untrustworthy and so immune to the traditional means of evaluating credibility’ such that a per se ban is warranted. Id. at 2714. The Court recognized that cross-examination remained as an effective tool for revealing inconsistencies, id., even though hypnosis may lead to the introduction of inaccurate memories, ‘making effective cross-examination more difficult.’

Rock thus teaches that, although hypnosis may make effective cross-examination more difficult, it does not always make it impossible, thereby preserving the opportunity for effective cross-examination safeguarded by the Sixth Amendment. See Delaware v. Fensterer, 474 U.S. 15, 20, 106 S.Ct. 292, 295, 88 L.Ed.2d 15 (1985) (‘The Confrontation Clause guarantees the opportunity for effective cross-examination….’ (emphasis in original)); accord Delaware v. Van Arsdall, 475 U.S. 673, 678, 106 S.Ct. 1431, 1435, 89 L.Ed.2d 674 (1986). Consequently, we decline to hold that the Confrontation Clause requires a per se ban on the admission of hypnotically refreshed testimony.

We thus examine whether, on the facts of the present case, a Confrontation Clause violation occurred. ‘The sixth amendment confrontation clause is satisfied where sufficient information is elicited from the witness from which the jury can adequately gauge the witness. Such information was elicited here. In particular, Anderson admitted that the hypnotic sessions he underwent, to some degree, had an effect on the testimony he was giving. Moreover, defense counsel explored why Anderson took so long to come forward; Anderson’s activities on the morning of February 9th; the relationship between the prosecution’s search of Anderson’s work schedule records and Anderson’s understanding that February 9th was the date of Kimberly Leach’s disappearance; Anderson’s identifying Bundy on television but never participating in a photo line-up or a live line-up; Anderson’s travelling the route from the fire station past Lake City Junior High School many times before; and the discrepancies between Anderson’s trial testimony and his statements prior to hypnosis. The record does not demonstrate that the trial court impermissibly limited the cross-examination of Anderson. In addition, Bundy examined the two hypnotists concerning their qualifications. Finally, the tape recordings of the two sessions were played to the jury, each juror received a transcript of those sessions, and Bundy presented an expert witness who addressed what he characterized as the flaws in those sessions. In light of these facts, Bundy certainly had the opportunity for effective cross-examination and no Confrontation Clause violation occurred.

We next examine Bundy’s claim that admission of Anderson’s testimony deprived Bundy of his Fourteenth Amendment due process right to a fair trial. We note at the outset that Rock rejects the suggestion that hypnotically refreshed testimony is so unreliable that a per se ban on such testimony is warranted. Accordingly, we must determine whether, on the facts in the present case, the hypnotically refreshed testimony was so unreliable as to violate due process. We conclude that the use of Anderson’s testimony accorded with the dictates of due process.

In the present case, as set forth above, Anderson first went to the police on July 28, 1978, because the profile of a person he had seen on a television newscast bore a striking resemblance to a man he had earlier observed with a girl near the Lake City Junior High School. Before going to the police, Anderson had noticed a resemblance between his niece and Kimberly Leach and thought, before seeing Bundy’s picture on television, that Kimberly Leach was the girl he had seen: I probably knew it for some time. Exactly when I realized that it was the Leach girl, I have no earthly idea. I just would not admit it to myself. Prior to coming to the police, Anderson had thought what he saw was what he testified to at trial. Indeed, during the search for Kimberly Leach, Anderson expressed his thoughts to a fishing companion: And I said, I don’t recall specifically what I said, but I stated that I may have seen the guy that picked the Leach girl up or I may have seen someone that could have picked up the girl.

Anderson gave a statement at the police station. He described the man he had seen as of medium build, 5-foot-7 to 5-foot-10, and having medium or darker brown wavy hair. The man wore a light shirt or jacket. Anderson described the girl as 12 or 13 years old with shoulder-length brown hair parted in the middle. She wore dungarees or slacks and a dark pullover, and carried a sweater, jacket, or large pocketbook. He said the man led the girl, by her elbow, around the front of the van and helped her in. The girl had an unhappy look as if she had been in trouble at school. The van was white and its rear windows were covered so that Anderson could not see the man after he entered the van. He described his observation as taking place in April.

After Anderson gave his statement, the prosecutor asked Anderson if he would undergo hypnosis. Anderson agreed. Thirty to forty-five minutes later, Imogene Keene, a hypnotist, arrived. Prior to hypnosis, Anderson repeated his statement. Keene then began the procedure to hypnotize Anderson. The session was tape recorded. (The tape recording was played to the jury and each juror received a transcript of the session.) The prosecutor and police investigator were also present. Anderson testified at trial that he did not believe he was hypnotized. He recalled that his neck bothered him and affected his concentration. He remembered that people kept walking in and out of the area. The descriptions offered by Anderson suggest that he was not hypnotized. For the most part, Anderson recited the facts he had given in his statement to the police. Although he initially stated that he could not see the girl’s face, in response to a question, he stated that the girl was crying. In addition, Anderson described the color of the van’s license plate, although the true color was different.

At the conclusion of this first session, the prosecutor asked if Anderson would undergo hypnosis again. Anderson agreed and a second session took place three days later on July 31. After the first session, the prosecutor or police investigator suggested that Anderson go home and think about the date of his observation. Prior to the second session, Anderson recalled the date of his observation as February 9th:

[A.] … I talked it over with my wife. I was very concerned about it, very upset about it. I didn’t even know what day the girl was missing. I believe my wife said it was around the time of our little girl’s birthday and then it began to dawn on me as I went over it in my mind that I saw the little girl and the man coming home from the fire department the day after my little girl’s birthday.
Q. What was you little daughter’s birthday?
A. February the 8th.
Q. Had you planned any events in connection with her birthday or what caused you to focus attention on her birthday?
A. My wife had planned a party where [sic] some of her friends and a movie, and I was looking forward to, you know, going to the party and taking the kids to the movies, you know, helping chaperone the kids. And I didn’t make it because I was working overtime at the fire station. I got called in quite often that day to work overtime. It seemed like every time I went home, I walked in the door, the phone would be ringing and them asking me to come back down to the fire station and, late that afternoon, I got a call to go back down to the fire station, they had a trip going to Gainesville, and we needed the money, so I went and I called my wife and told her that I’m sorry, go ahead and take the kids to the party and the movie, I wasn’t going to be able to make it.
Q. Okay. What, if anything, happened on February the 9th, after you got home, that allowed you to tie that incident in with your little daughter’s birthday party?
A. I remember going in. I remember feeling guilty about not being with the kids at the party. Well, the first thing I did was eat a piece of my daughter’s birthday cake. I asked my wife to iron me a shirt, a uniform shirt. I think probably eating the cake and just I remember feeling guilty about not making the party makes me remember it as clear as anything else.
Q. Okay. And are you certain in your own mind, as you have testified this morning, on February the 9th is the date that you made those observations that you have described to the Court?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Now, do I understand your testimony to be that, in between July the 28th and July the 31st, you made this determination?
A. Yes, sir.
R21:4087-89.
On July 31, the second session took place. Anderson, Keene, the prosecutor, the police investigator, Johnny ‘Jack’ Burnette, and a stenographer were present. The session was tape recorded. (The tape recording was played to the jury and each juror received a transcript of the session.) In this second session, Burnette, another hypnotist, placed Anderson under hypnosis. Anderson believed he was hypnotized during this session. During this session, Anderson stated, inter alia, that his observation was on February 9; that the man was fairly young (29, 30, or 31), was good looking, and was wearing a white jacket or white pullover with a shirt underneath; that the girl was wearing a blue football jersey with ‘3’ and either ‘6’ or ‘8’ on it; and that the van had clear rear windows through which Anderson could see the man scold the girl. After the session, Anderson ‘felt better,’ but ‘there are still some things bothering me. I couldn’t definitely identify the man. I couldn’t remember exactly what the man was wearing. There were still some questions that I had that I would like to have been able to answer.’ R21:4120.
At trial, Anderson testified in relevant part as follows:
Q. What, if anything, did you observe in the vicinity of Lake City Junior High School on that morning [February 9th] as you travelled to your home?
A. The first thing I noticed was there was a white van parked in the westbound lane of Duval Street, that, as I approached it, several cars had, were going around it. There were still two cars behind the van and then my truck. And I was sitting there waiting for the truck to move or waiting for traffic to clear so I could go around it. And on my left, I noticed a young girl, approximately twelve or thirteen years old, dark hair, shoulder length, parted in the middle. Probably the only reason I noticed this girl was she looked very much like one of my nieces.
Q. Was there anyone with the young girl?
A. Yes, sir. With her was a man, approximately early thirties, had brown hair, you know, light to dark brown hair, was full cut of hair. It was one of the things that I really paid any attention to as far as the man was concerned. It was kind of wavy, but it was full cut, you know, really a nice head of hair.
I got the impression that the young girl was either crying or had been crying. The man had a scowl on his face. And I felt like probably the girl had gotten in trouble at the school or misbehaved in some way and had called her father to come pick her up and take her home. And as I was sitting there, watching them, I remember thinking to myself, you know, the daddy is going to take the little girl home and probably, you know, give her a spanking or something like that.
Q. Would you tell us how the girl was dressed, as you recall?
A. She was wearing a pullover football jersey and probably dungarees.
Q. What was the color of the football jersey?
A. It was dark blue.
Q. Did the jersey have any distinguishing marks or characteristics?
A. Yes, sir. It had some letters on it, ’63’ or ’68’, red-orange, something like that.
Q. Did the girl appear to be carrying anything?
A. Yes, sir. In her left arm, kind of clutched to her chest like this (demonstrating), was a medium-sized object like, so it could have been a pocketbook or a rolled-up jacket or maybe both. I don’t know. The man had her by her left arm, right about the elbow, and he was leading her towards the white van. The little girl was not actually resisting. It was pretty evidence [sic] that, that, you know, she wasn’t really anxious to go. They was, from the sidewalk, probably six to ten feet from the sidewalk when I first saw them. They continued to walk to the sidewalk. He stopped–
Q. Did the man have the girl by the left arm during the entire time that you observed them?
A. Yes, sir. They stopped and a car came by, going east, and they crossed in front of the white van. The man opened the door.
Q. Which door did he open?
A. The door on the passenger side. And helped the girl get in the van, slammed the door, and kind of jogged in front of the van, got in the passenger side, and they drove off.
R21:4063-65.
Q. Were you able to tell how the man was dressed?
A. Yes, sir. He had a pullover sweater, with a shirt underneath the sweater. I don’t recall the exact color of either one of them. The sweater was a neutral color, tan, light grey, something like that. I don’t recall the color of his trousers.
Q. You have described the van as being a white van. Can you give any further description of it. particularly with respect to any windows?
A. All I seen was a, was the very back of it and it had two windows, the rear doors.
Q. Okay. I’m going to have you a photograph, which has been marked for identification as State’s Exhibit J. I ask you to examine this photograph and tell us whether or not that photograph is similar to the white van that you observed on the morning of February the 9th in front of the Lake City Junior High School.
A. Yes, sir, it’s very similar.
Q. Now, after the person placed the girl in the white van and got in on the driver’s side, what happened then?
A. The van drove off, you know, a normal rate of speed. As I said before, there were two vehicles between me and the van. The closest one to the van was a small, dark blue foreign car of some kind. I have no idea what kind.
Q. Did you remain behind the white van?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And approximately at what distance behind the white van?
A. Two car lengths. We were all fairly close together. Nobody was keeping the proper distance between the vehicles, if I remember correctly. Somewhere between the junior high school and 7th Street, which is roughly seven blocks, six blocks, the small car turned off to the right. I don’t recall what street it turned off. And then the van stopped at the red light at 7th Street.
Q. Were you able to observe the driver as he was stopped at the red light there at 7th Street?
[A]. Okay. When the van stopped at 7th Street, I could see the silhouette of the driver turn towards the passenger side.
Q. Could you see anyone in the passenger side at that point in time?
A. No, sir.
Q. Had the girl been sitting up straight in the seat, do you know of any reason why you could not have seen her at that time?
A. No, sir.
Q. What, if anything, did you see the driver doing?
A. He was gesturing, turned to his right, and moving his head like he was talking, and gesturing with his left hand.
Q. And when you say he was turning to his right, that would have been toward the passenger side of the–
A. Toward the passenger side.
Q. How long after that did you lose sight of the van?
A. Approximately two, two and a half blocks, U.S. 90 veers left and West Duval Street continues straight west.
Q. Mr. Anderson, I’m going to hand you a photograph, which is in evidence as State’s Exhibit 1, and I ask you to examine that photograph and tell the members of the jury whether or not you recognize that person depicted.
A. Yes, sir, I do.
Q. Who is that person?
A. It’s the young girl I saw at the school.
Q. On the morning of February the 9th?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. I’m going to ask you, Mr. Anderson, if you will look around the courtroom and tell the members of the jury whether or not you can positively identify the man that you observed leading that young girl from the school ground on February the 9th.
A. No, sir, I’m not absolutely certain.
Q. I ask you then to once again to [sic] look around the courtroom and tell the members of the jury whether or not there is anyone in the courtroom who closely resembles the person that you observed leading the young girl to the white van on the morning of February the 9th.
A. Yes, sir, there is.
Q. Would you point that person out, please?
A. The defendant.
….Q. Are you aware of any dissimilarities in the appearance between the person that you pointed out in the courtroom and the person that you saw leading the girl to the van on that morning?
A. No, sir, they were very much alike.
R21:4068-73.

We hold that Anderson’s hypnotically enhanced testimony was not so wholly unreliable that its admission violated Bundy’s due process right to a fair trial. Indeed, Anderson’s knowledge independent of the hypnosis sessions defeats the inference that the hypnosis was unduly suggestive. The above recitation of the facts makes clear that, prior to going to the police, Anderson strongly suspected that he had seen Leach’s abduction–a suspicion he shared with a fishing companion. Upon seeing Bundy on television, Anderson’s suspicions grew to a certainty that outweighed his fears of getting involved and sending police on a ‘wild goose chase.’ At this point, Anderson went to the police and gave a statement reflecting his thought that a man resembling Bundy had abducted Kimberly Leach. Independent of hypnosis, Anderson recalled that the date of his observation was February 9th.

We also cannot say that the hypnotically enhanced details of Anderson’s trial testimony were the product of impermissible suggestions or techniques by the hypnotist. Indeed, the jury heard tapes of the two sessions, received transcripts of those sessions, and heard testimony of an expert witness who addressed what he characterized as the flaws in those sessions. Cross-examination was the avenue with which to attack Anderson’s testimony. We have held above that an opportunity for effective cross-examination was available here. That holding buttresses our conclusion that Anderson’s testimony was not so unreliable as to violate Bundy’s due process right to a fair trial.

VIII. Exclusion of Jurors: Bundy argues that the trial court erred in denying his motion to limit death qualification of the jury, permitting such qualification, and excusing for cause jurors who expressed opposition to the death penalty, notwithstanding their ability to vote for guilt or innocence. Bundy argues that, because of the capital sentencing procedures of Florida law, the rule enunciated in Witherspoon v. Illinois, 391 U.S. 510, 88 S.Ct. 1770, 20 L.Ed.2d 776 (1968), and refined by its progeny does not apply. Bundy asserts that under Florida law the trial judge solely determines whether a defendant receives a death sentence and that the jury renders an advisory opinion only. Bundy concludes that, because the jury has an advisory role only, Florida lacks the usual state interest in excluding jurors who would automatically vote against the death penalty. As a result, Bundy argues that his interest in a jury composed of a cross-section of the community controls and the trial court erred in excusing those jurors who were unalterably committed to vote against the death penalty.

On direct appeal, the Florida Supreme Court held that it was precluded from ruling on this claim because objections as to this claim were not raised in the trial court. Bundy, 471 So.2d at 19. The district court held that the claim was procedurally barred and, alternatively, without merit.

We conclude that Bundy’s claim is without merit.26 Supreme Court precedent clearly establishes that a state can exclude for cause a prospective juror whose opposition to the death penalty ‘would prevent or substantially impair the performance of his duties as a juror in accordance with his instructions and his oath.’ See, e.g., Wainwright v. Witt, 469 U.S. 412, 420, 105 S.Ct. 844, 850, 83 L.Ed.2d 841 (1985) (quoting Adams v. Texas, 448 U.S. 38, 45, 100 S.Ct. 2521, 2526, 65 L.Ed.2d 581 (1980)). Bundy attempts to avoid the force of this Supreme Court precedent by characterizing the role of the sentencing jury as advisory under Florida law. We disagree. See Mann v. Dugger, 844 F.2d 1446, 1449-54 (11th Cir.1988) (en banc). As a result, Witherspoon and its progeny apply to jury selection in Florida cases. Because Bundy admitted in his brief on direct appeal, see page 56 of that brief, that the jurors were properly excluded under Witherspoon,27 this claim is without merit as are any claims that ‘death qualification’ violates the fair cross-section or impartial jury requirements of the Sixth Amendment. See Lockhart v. McCree, 476 U.S. 162, 106 S.Ct. 1758, 90 L.Ed.2d 137 (1986).

IX. Frye Test: Bundy argues that the trial court erred in not conducting a sua sponte inquiry into the scientific reliability of fiber and shoe track evidence presented by the state. See Frye v. United States, 293 F. 1013 (D.C.Cir.1923) (expert testimony admissible only if based on well-recognized and generally accepted scientific principles). On direct appeal, the Florida Supreme Court noted that Bundy failed to object at trial and thus the claim was procedurally barred. See Bundy, 471 So.2d at 20. The district court held that the claim failed pursuant to the procedural default doctrine and, alternatively, was without merit. See slip op. at 14-15.

This claim is not procedurally barred. If the trial court truly had an independent duty to conduct a Frye test, then Bundy was not obligated to request a Frye test or to object at trial to the court’s failure to conduct one. Consequently, the Florida Supreme Court improperly refused to consider the merits of this claim, and its mistaken reliance on a procedural bar does not provide an adequate basis for denying federal habeas review.

Although this claim is not procedurally barred, it is without merit. In substance, Bundy seeks to avoid Florida’s contemporaneous objection rule and associated procedural default, see Wainwright v. Sykes, 433 U.S. 72, 97 S.Ct. 2497, 53 L.Ed.2d 594 (1977), by requiring that the trial court object sua sponte to the admission of evidence. In Wainwright v. Sykes, 433 U.S. at 86, 97 S.Ct. at 2506, the Supreme Court rejected the suggestion that the trial court had an independent duty to conduct a hearing as to the voluntariness of a defendant’s confession. Similarly, we agree that, even assuming that evidence must meet the Frye test as a matter of constitutional law,28 the trial court has no independent duty to challenge the evidence and the admission of the evidence must be challenged by the defendant at trial or not at all.

X. Jury View: Bundy claims he was denied due process when his motion for a jury view of the scene around the school was denied by the trial court. On direct appeal, the Florida Supreme Court held that the trial court did not abuse its discretion. See Bundy, 471 So.2d at 20. The district court held that this claim was addressed to an issue of state law and thus was not a basis for federal habeas relief. Alternatively, the district court held that the trial court’s ruling did not deny Bundy fundamental fairness. See slip op. at 15.

We disagree with the district court’s characterization of this claim as addressed to an issue of state law. An evidentiary ruling is a cognizable ground for federal habeas corpus relief if it deprived the state court defendant of fundamental fairness. See Jameson v. Wainwright, 719 F.2d 1125, 1126 (11th Cir.1983), cert. denied, 466 U.S. 975, 104 S.Ct. 2355, 80 L.Ed.2d 827 (1984). We agree with the district court, however, that the ruling did not deprive Bundy of fundamental fairness. To constitute a denial of fundamental fairness, the evidence at issue must be crucial and highly significant. 719 F.2d at 1127; see Williams v. Kemp, 846 F.2d 1276, 1282 (11th Cir.1988). In the present case, the scene had been significantly altered because of the construction of a four-lane highway. In addition, photographs of the scene were admitted into evidence, and cross-examination as to the scene was allowed. Consequently, denying the jury an actual view of the scene cannot be said to have deprived Bundy of a fundamentally fair trial.

XI. Evidence of Flight: Bundy claims he was denied due process when his motion in limine to exclude evidence of flight was denied by the trial court and when the trial court instructed the jury regarding the evidence of flight. On direct appeal, the Florida Supreme Court relied on federal cases binding on this panel and held that the evidence was properly admitted and that the related instruction was proper. See Bundy, 471 So.2d at 20-21. The district court noted that this claim raised state-law issues and thus was not a basis for federal habeas corpus relief.29 Alternatively, the district court held that the evidence was properly admitted and that the jury instruction did not render the trial fundamentally unfair. See slip op. at 15-16.

The state presented evidence of two instances of flight by Bundy. The first instance occurred on February 11, 1978 (two days after the abduction of Kimberly Leach) at 1:47 a.m. in Tallahassee, which is approximately 100 miles west of Lake City. In this instance, after being stopped by a police officer, Bundy successfully fled. The second instance occurred on February 15, 1978 (six days after the abduction of Kimberly Leach) at approximately 1:30 a.m. in Pensacola, which is approximately 200 miles west of Tallahassee and 300 miles west of Lake City. After being stopped by a police officer, Bundy began to flee down a street, but was caught and arrested within a few minutes. The trial judge permitted evidence of both instances of flight and, prior to the jury’s deliberations, instructed the jury as follows:

You are instructed that the flight of the defendant is a circumstance which may be taken into consideration with all other facts and circumstances in the evidence and, if you, the jury, believe and find from the evidence beyond every reasonable doubt that the defendant fled for the purpose of avoiding arrest and trial under the charges herein, you may take this fact into consideration in determining guilt or innocence.

R35:6939-40. We find no error in the admission of the evidence of flight and no error in the trial court’s instructions as to that evidence.

XII. Doubling of Aggravating Circumstances: Bundy argues that constitutional error occurred when the trial court relied on Bundy’s conviction in Utah for aggravated kidnapping to find two aggravating circumstances: (1) Bundy was under a sentence of imprisonment when he committed the present crime and (2) Bundy previously had been convicted of a violent crime. On direct appeal, the Florida Supreme Court applied the test enunciated in Blockburger v. United States, 284 U.S. 299, 52 S.Ct. 180, 76 L.Ed. 306 (1932), and rejected Bundy’s claim. See Bundy, 471 So.2d at 22.

The district court recognized the Florida Supreme Court’s reliance on Blockburger and concluded it was ‘convinced that the [Florida] Supreme Court’s decision on this issue [was] correct.’30 Slip op. at 16. We agree that Blockburger renders Bundy’s claim without merit. In Blockburger, the Supreme Court stated that ‘the test to be applied to determine whether there are two offenses or only one, is whether each provision requires proof of a fact which the other does not.’ 284 U.S. at 304, 52 S.Ct. at 182. In the present case, each aggravating circumstance clearly has an element different from the other.

XIII. Penalty for Requesting Jury Trial: Based on the state’s original agreement to a life sentence in this case,31 Africano filed a motion that would have prevented the court from convening the penalty phase and from returning a death sentence. The motion stated that Bundy was unconstitutionally forced to risk death in order to exercise his right to a jury trial. The trial judge denied the motion. Although Bundy challenged this denial in his brief on direct appeal, the Florida Supreme Court did not address it.

In his federal habeas petition, Bundy claimed that the trial court erred in denying his motion to enter a life sentence on the verdict and to prohibit the penalty phase of trial. The district court observed that Bundy ‘essentially concedes that this ground is procedurally barred’ and, alternatively, held the claim without merit. See slip op. at 16-17. Although this claim is not procedurally barred,32 we agree that the claim is without merit. There is no hint in the record that Bundy received a heavier sentence after trial as a result of judicial vindictiveness or punitive action. See Hitchcock v. Wainwright, 770 F.2d 1514, 1518-20 (11th Cir.1985) (en banc), rev’d on other grounds, — U.S. —-, 107 S.Ct. 1821, 95 L.Ed.2d 347 (1987).

XIV. Clemency Hearing: Bundy argues that he was denied his right to apply for executive clemency in violation of the Eighth and Fourteenth Amendments. The Florida Supreme Court, see Bundy, 497 So.2d at 1211, and the district court, see slip op. at 17, held this claim without merit. We affirm the district court, but do not share its reasoning.

We begin our analysis of the procedural due process claim by determining whether Bundy has a protected liberty interest in being accorded a hearing for executive clemency. ‘Liberty interests protected by the Fourteenth Amendment may arise from two sources–the Due Process Clause itself and the laws of the States.’ Hewitt v. Helms, 459 U.S. 460, 466, 103 S.Ct. 864, 868, 74 L.Ed.2d 675 (1983). This Circuit’s predecessor has held that such a liberty interest does not arise from the Due Process Clause itself. See Spinkellink v. Wainwright, 578 F.2d 582, 617-19 (5th Cir.1978), cert. denied, 440 U.S. 976, 99 S.Ct. 1548, 59 L.Ed.2d 796 (1979). Accordingly, we turn to the Florida Rules of Executive Clemency. See Sullivan v. Askew, 348 So.2d 312, 319-25 (Fla.) (setting forth clemency procedures), cert. denied, 434 U.S. 878, 98 S.Ct. 232, 54 L.Ed.2d 159 (1977).

In Hewitt, the Supreme Court observed that the mere enactment of regulations does not automatically give rise to a liberty interest, especially if the regulations are nothing more than guidelines for the exercise of executive discretion. 459 U.S. at 471, 103 S.Ct. at 871. The Court recognized, however, that a liberty interest is present when the regulations are of an ‘unmistakably mandatory character’ and require ‘specific substantive predicates.’ Id. at 471-72, 103 S.Ct. at 871.

Florida’s clemency procedures do not satisfy either requirement. Cf. Sheley v. Dugger, 833 F.2d 1420, 1424 (11th Cir.1987) (Florida ‘rules and regulations concerning administrative segregation and close management create for inmates a liberty interest in remaining in the general prison population’); McQueen v. Tabah, 839 F.2d 1525, 1527-29 (11th Cir.1988) (following Sheley ). First, the clemency procedures do not unmistakably indicate that a prisoner sentenced to death is entitled to a clemency hearing. Rule 7, a special rule for executive clemency in capital cases, provides that ‘the Governor or any member of the Cabinet, after reviewing a certified copy of the conviction and sentence, may request the Florida Parole and Probation Commission to make an appropriate investigation, inquiring into any factors relevant to commutation.’ Although Rule 7 sets forth required procedures, these procedures are required only after the discretionary request to the Commission. See also Sullivan, 348 So.2d at 318 (England, J., specially concurring) (procedures are required ‘once triggered’). Second, no specific substantive predicates govern this discretion; the decision whether to grant clemency is wholly a matter of executive discretion. Sullivan, 348 So.2d at 314-16; Fla. Const. Art. IV, Sec. 8. The clemency rules do not require the Governor to make any factual findings in order to deny clemency to a capital defendant.

Finally, Bundy’s claim that the lack of a clemency hearing violates his Eighth Amendment right is without merit. This is not the situation where a state prohibits executive clemency. See Gregg v. Georgia, 428 U.S. 153, 200 n. 50, 96 S.Ct. 2909, 2937-38 n. 50, 49 L.Ed.2d 859 (1976) (opinion of Stewart, Powell, and Stevens, JJ.) (prohibiting executive clemency ‘would be totally alien to our notions of criminal justice’). In addition, the concern derived from the Eighth Amendment regarding capital cases focuses on the judicial processes of trial and appellate review, not on the discretionary state process (i.e., executive clemency) succeeding them. See Spinkellink, 578 F.2d at 619 & n. 45.

XV. Pretrial Publicity: Bundy argues that his jury was both presumptively and actually prejudiced on account of adverse pretrial publicity concerning his conviction in the Leon County case. By statutory choice of permissive venue, venue initially was in Suwannee County. (Lake City is located in Columbia County.) After the start of voir dire in Suwannee County, the trial court granted Bundy’s motion for a change in venue and moved the case to Orange County. The trial court refused to grant Bundy another change of venue, or abatement in the trial, even though Bundy contended that the jurors in Orange County were as equally prejudiced as the jurors in Suwannee County. The Florida Supreme Court, see Bundy, 471 So.2d at 19-20, and the district court, see slip op. at 17-19, held this claim without merit. On appeal, Bundy argues that the district court erred in denying him an evidentiary hearing on this claim.

Jury prejudice can be presumed from pretrial publicity if that publicity is sufficiently prejudicial and inflammatory and if it saturated the community where the trial was held. Murphy v. Florida, 421 U.S. 794, 798-99, 95 S.Ct. 2031, 2035-36, 44 L.Ed.2d 589 (1975); Rideau v. Louisiana, 373 U.S. 723, 726-27, 83 S.Ct. 1417, 1419-20, 10 L.Ed.2d 663 (1963); Coleman v. Kemp, 778 F.2d 1487, 1490 (11th Cir.1985), cert. denied, 476 U.S. 1164, 106 S.Ct. 2289, 90 L.Ed.2d 730 (1986). This principle is rarely applicable and reserved for extreme situations where pretrial publicity renders ‘virtually impossible a fair trial by an impartial jury drawn from the community.’

We hold that the coverage of the Leon County trial,33 although extensive, does not satisfy the heavy burden associated with presumed prejudice. In support of his motion for a change in venue or abatement of prosecution, Bundy presented the testimony of local television personnel. See R6:1159-98, R7:1202-18. The public television station had broadcast half-hour summaries of the Leon County trial. These summaries were factual accounts; the station was prohibited by law from offering editorial comment. At the time of jury selection in January 1980, the station had not broadcast anything about Bundy since the conclusion of the Leon County trial in late July 1979. Although the commercial television stations provided extensive coverage of the Leon County trial, the coverage was factual in nature and not designed to inflame or prejudice the public. In addition, prior to the verdict, these stations did not broadcast editorials about whether the defendant was guilty in that case. Bundy also presented newspaper articles from the local newspaper. See R12:2222-24. Again, these articles are largely factual in nature. Consequently, unlike Coleman, the coverage of the Leon County case was not infested with inflammatory and prejudicial remarks from the police and prosecutors. See also Murphy, 421 U.S. at 802, 95 S.Ct. at 2037 (news articles were largely factual in nature); United States v. Klacker, 811 F.2d 555, 556 (11th Cir.1987) (‘The news reports detailing appellant’s flight from justice were largely factual reports, devoid of inflammatory material’).

Likewise, we are unpersuaded by a public opinion poll proffered by Bundy in support of his motion. The poll, conducted among residents of Orange County, showed that 98% of those who responded indicated their familiarity with the name Bundy. See R7:1237. Of that number 58% stated that they knew Bundy had been involved in the Leon County case. Of that number, 31% believed that Bundy’s conviction in that case strongly indicated that he was guilty in the present case. See id. at 1240. Although publicity concerning a defendant’s involvement in other crimes is relevant in presuming jury prejudice, especially if the defendant’s involvement in that crime is inadmissible in the guilt/innocence phase, Murphy stands for the proposition that prejudice is not presumed simply because the defendant’s criminal record is well publicized. Thus, even assuming that the methodology of the public opinion poll is such that it accurately reflected the attitude of Orange County residents, the poll does not demonstrate that the community was so predisposed to Bundy’s guilt in the present case that prejudice must be presumed.

Nor can we say that Bundy has demonstrated actual prejudice in the entire venire. See Irvin v. Dowd, 366 U.S. 717, 727, 81 S.Ct. 1639, 1645, 6 L.Ed.2d 751 (1961). We have carefully reviewed approximately 19 volumes of voir dire. We note that the trial court propounded general questions to each set of prospective jurors, the panels ranging from eleven to fifteen persons. As one of the general questions, the trial court requested that prospective jurors raise their hands to indicate if they had heard of the defendant, but that they not reveal the source or extent of their knowledge. Thereafter, those prospective jurors who remained after general questioning were individually questioned by the trial court, one prosecutor, and one defense attorney. No other prospective juror was present during this individual questioning. Our review of the record indicates that as part of this individual questioning the trial court permitted a searching inquiry into knowledge and thoughts about the defendant.

Our review of the record indicates that 172 prospective jurors were called and 56 were excused for reasons relating to health, family, employment, or school. Of the 116 remaining prospective jurors, 42 were excused because they could not (1) be impartial based upon their extensive knowledge of the Leon County case, (2) set aside preconceived notions of guilt, and/or (3) could not accord Bundy a presumption of innocence.34 Of the remaining 74 jurors, a small minority also stated that they had a preconceived notion of guilt. Consequently, we cannot say that Bundy suffered actual prejudice from the entire venire.

Before we examine whether Bundy has demonstrated actual prejudice regarding the trial jury as a whole, we examine Bundy’s challenge to an individual juror. The Supreme Court has recognized that the question of the partiality of an individual juror is one of historical fact to which the presumption of correctness of a state court’s factual findings under 28 U.S.C. Sec. 2254(d) applies. Patton v. Yount, 467 U.S. 1025, 1036, 104 S.Ct. 2885, 2891, 81 L.Ed.2d 847 (1984). ‘Thus the question is whether there is fair support in the record for the state courts’ conclusion that the juror[ ] here would be impartial.’

We conclude that there is fair support in the record for the trial court’s conclusion35 as to this individual juror. This juror, the twelfth juror selected and eventually the jury foreman, was pre-press manager of the local newspaper. In response to the trial court’s questions, he stated that he understood that the defendant was entitled to be tried on the evidence presented in the present case alone, that he would follow the trial court’s instructions as to the law, that he would accord the defendant a presumption of innocence and hold the state to its burden of proof, that he would not require the defendant to take the stand, and that he would set aside any opinion or impression he had about the defendant. See R18:3455-58. Assuming a guilty verdict, he stated that he was not committed to voting automatically for the death penalty or life imprisonment. Id. at 3465. He again stated that the defendant need not take the stand, the defense need not prove the defendant not guilty, and that the burden rested on the state.

On questioning by Africano, see generally id. at 3473-89, the juror stated that he knew Bundy was convicted of murder in Miami of ‘the Tallahassee girls’ and that ‘it sounded like a pretty gory case’ and ‘some brutal murders.’ He knew Bundy was sentenced to death. Unlike most prospective jurors, he recalled the bite-mark evidence from that case, although he stated, ‘I believe that was the Bundy case.’ He guessed that death was by bludgeoning and that there was more than one murder. Unlike most prospective jurors, he recalled that Bundy had escaped from prison in Colorado. He knew that Bundy ‘is highly intelligent and he had some law background or something somewhere along the line.’ He did not recall if co-workers had reached a consensus of Bundy’s guilt prior to the Leon County verdict, but said that family and friends thought Bundy was guilty. Twice, he stated that he had no thoughts as to Bundy’s guilt prior to the verdict.36 After conviction in the Leon County case, his feelings were ‘not too good towards Mr. Bundy.’ He stated that he still felt that way, but that he would listen to the evidence in the present case.37 Upon further questioning, the juror adhered to his earlier stated positions.38 Based upon our examination of the record, we hold that there is fair support for the trial court’s conclusion.

We proceed to examine whether Bundy has demonstrated actual prejudice regarding the trial jury as a whole. In this context, the ‘Supreme Court has questioned whether the ‘fairly supported by the recor’ standard of 28 U.S.C. Sec. 2254(d) supplanted the ‘manifest error’ standard enunciated in Irvin. Patton v. Yount, 467 U.S. at 1031 n. 7, 104 S.Ct. at 2889 n. 7. The Court, however, did not resolve the question because it concluded that the defendant had not satisfied the ‘manifest error’ standard. Id. at 1032 n. 7, 104 S.Ct. at 2889 n. 7. Because we conclude that Bundy has not satisfied Irvin ‘s standard, we also do not determine whether Section 2254(d) has superseded that standard.

We have already set forth the relevant voir dire of the twelfth juror. We now summarize the individual voir dire of the other eleven jurors:

Juror Number One (R6:1017-1049): She stated that she could follow the trial court’s instructions. She knew that Bundy was on trial for some murders in the northern part of Florida. She believed he was convicted, but did not know the sentence. No challenge for cause was made.

Juror Number Two (R6:1080-1116): He stated that he could follow the trial court’s instructions. He had heard Bundy’s name before, but could not recollect why. No challenge for cause was made.

Juror Number Three (R8:1482-1530): She stated that she was not sure that she had a fixed opinion regarding guilt/innocence, but that she would follow the trial court’s instructions. She stated that she was not sure if she had an open mind regarding hypnosis and that she had mixed feelings about the death penalty. Although she ‘may even have the wrong thing,’ it seemed that Bundy was involved in the crime involving three girls in upstate Florida. She had formed a negative opinion about Bundy, but could fairly and impartially judge the evidence, although there might be a glimmer of a doubt that she could do that. She thought she would require some evidence tending to show innocence, even though there is a presumption of innocence. She thought she might be influenced by the fact that Bundy did not take the stand. However, she would just have to keep reminding herself of the instructions of the court. The trial court found a firm indication of impartiality and denied the motion to excuse for cause.

Juror Number Four (R9:1686-1729): He stated that he could follow the trial court’s instructions. He knew that Bundy was found guilty of murder in the previous trial and sentenced to death. He knew nothing of Bundy’s background. He stated that what happened before would not have any effect on the guilt/innocence in the present case. The trial court found that the prospective juror could be impartial and denied the motion to excuse for cause.

Juror Number Five (Rl0:1974-98, Rll:2002-12): He stated that he could follow the trial court’s instructions. He heard Bundy’s name mentioned around his workplace. He knew Bundy was tried for something in northern Florida, but he did not know the charges or the outcome of the trial. He knew nothing of Bundy’s background. The trial court credited the truth of the prospective juror’s testimony and denied the motion to excuse for cause on that basis.

Juror Number Six (R11:2013-51): He stated that he had no preconceived notion of Bundy’s guilt or innocence and that he could follow the trial court’s instructions. He knew that Bundy was tried, convicted, and sentenced to death in Miami for the murders of two sorority sisters at Florida State University. Unlike most prospective jurors, he recalled the dentist’s testimony about the bite marks and recalled that Bundy was a law student out west and possibly wanted out there. Prior to the verdict in the Leon County case, he had formed an opinion that Bundy was guilty. He stated that he had no opinion about Bundy personally and that his knowledge would not influence his decision because the present case was a totally different case. He stated that he believed in the notion of innocent until proven guilty. The trial court denied the motion to excuse for cause.

Juror Number Seven (R14:2698-2737): She stated she could follow the trial court’s instructions. She was dubious about hypnosis, but could consider the testimony. She read the newspaper once she knew Bundy was coming to Orlando for trial. She learned that Bundy had been tried and found guilty. She did not know what sentence was imposed. The trial court denied a motion to excuse for cause.

Juror Number Eight (R14:2737-80): She stated that she could follow the trial court’s instructions. She stated that she first heard of Bundy in the context of jury selection for this case. She expressed no knowledge of the Leon County trial. No challenge for cause was made.

Juror Number Nine (R16:3102-46): She stated that she could follow the trial court’s instructions. She knew that Bundy was convicted of murder in the earlier trial, but did not know if any sentence was imposed on Bundy. No challenge for cause was made.

Juror Number Ten (R16:3191-98, R17:3202-27): She stated that she had no feelings or opinions about the defendant that would prevent her from serving as a fair and impartial juror. She stated that she could follow the trial court’s instructions. She knew there was a prior trial, but did not know where it was held. No challenge for cause was made.

Juror Number Eleven (R17:3227-52): She stated that she could follow the trial court’s instructions. She did not have a television, did not get the newspaper, and heard of Bundy through conversations only. She did not recognize Bundy when she came to court and thought one of the defense attorneys was Bundy. She stated that she had never heard of Bundy before reporting for jury duty. No challenge for cause was made.

Based upon the composition, as summarized above, of the trial jury as a whole, we hold that Bundy has not shown that the trial court committed ‘manifest error.’ Consequently, we reject Bundy’s claim that he suffered presumed or actual prejudice as a result of pretrial publicity. Accordingly, we hold that none of the grounds asserted by Bundy for federal habeas corpus relief merits the granting of his petition. Therefore, we AFFIRM the district court.

During the time Bundy was awaiting trial in this case, he was convicted and sentenced to death for two murders committed in Tallahassee (‘Leon County case’). Bundy v. State, 455 So.2d 330 (Fla.1984). This Court has remanded Bundy’s federal habeas corpus challenge in that case to the district court for proper consideration under 28 U.S.C. Sec. 2254. Bundy v. Wainwright, 808 F.2d 1410 (11th Cir.1987) (Bundy I )

Despite its comment that it considered Bundy’s petition abusive, the district court added that it would ‘give the petitioner a conscientious review of the issues.’ Slip op. at 1. Consequently, it cannot be said that the district court dismissed the petition for abuse of the writ.

The district court misplaced its reliance on Justice Powell’s concurring opinion in Davis. See 107 S.Ct. at 18 (Powell, J., concurring) (‘In the future, and here I can write only for myself, I will expect counsel whose papers are filed with me as Circuit Justice on the eve of the execution date, to make an appropriate explanation.’). Despite Justice Powell’s admonition, the full Supreme Court granted stays of execution, although the applications for stay were not filed until the day before the scheduled execution. Consequently, Davis does not support the district court’s observation. Likewise, none of the cases cited by the state support the proposition that a first petition can be dismissed as abusive because it was filed on the eve of execution. Furthermore, this Court subsequently held in Davis v. Dugger, 829 F.2d 1513, 1514 (11th Cir.1987), that ‘the scheduling of an execution does not, in and of itself, create a basis for dismissing a petition under the abuse of the writ doctrine.’ See also Antone, 465 U.S. at 206 n. 4, 104 S.Ct. at 965 n. 4 (time constraints do not excuse failure to raise claim in a prior petition); Adams v. Wainwright, 804 F.2d 1526, 1533-34 (11th Cir.1986) (time constraints do not excuse failure to develop facts associated with claim raised in a prior petition).

We likewise find no basis to dismiss the petition as a ‘delayed’ petition. See 28 U.S.C. Sec. 2254 Rule 9(a). Similarly, the state’s argument that Bundy’s petition presents frivolous claims and, therefore, that a finding of abuse is warranted is without merit. Rule 9 does not examine the strength of the claims. Cf. 28 U.S.C. Sec. 2254 Rule 4.

From our predecessor circuit we have inherited two somewhat inconsistent lines of authority with respect to the standard of review we should apply to the district court’s finding that Bundy was competent to stand trial. Under one line of cases a district court’s finding of competency to stand trial is a finding of fact that can be set aside only if clearly erroneous or arbitrary. See United States v. Hayes, 589 F.2d 811, 822 (5th Cir.), cert. denied, 444 U.S. 847, 100 S.Ct. 93, 62 L.Ed.2d 60 (1979); United States v. Fratus, 530 F.2d 644, 647 (5th Cir.), cert. denied, 429 U.S. 846, 97 S.Ct. 130, 50 L.Ed.2d 118 (1976); United States v. Stone, 472 F.2d 909, 913 (5th Cir.1973), cert. denied, 449 U.S. 1020, 101 S.Ct. 586, 66 L.Ed.2d 482 (1980); United States v. Gray, 421 F.2d 316, 317 (5th Cir.1970); see also United States v. Birdsell, 775 F.2d 645, 648 (5th Cir.1985), cert. denied, 476 U.S. 1119, 106 S.Ct. 1979, 90 L.Ed.2d 662 (1986). This is consistent with the approach taken by other circuits. See, e.g., McFadden v. United States, 814 F.2d 144, 146 (3d Cir.1987); United States v. Lovelace, 683 F.2d 248, 251 (7th Cir.1982); Chavez v. United States, 656 F.2d 512, 517 (9th Cir.1981); United States v. Caldwell, 543 F.2d 1333, 1349 (D.C.Cir.1974), cert. denied, 423 U.S. 1087, 96 S.Ct. 877, 47 L.Ed.2d 97 (1976) (all using the clearly erroneous standard). In another line of cases, however, the Fifth Circuit has been less deferential, reviewing historical facts under a clearly erroneous standard but taking a more stringent ‘hard look’ at the district court’s ultimate finding of competency. See Lokos v. Capps, 625 F.2d 1258, 1267 (5th Cir.1980); Bruce v. Estelle, 536 F.2d 1051, 1059-60 (5th Cir.1976), cert. denied, 429 U.S. 1053, 97 S.Ct. 767, 50 L.Ed.2d 770 (1977); United States v. Makris, 535 F.2d 899, 907 (5th Cir.1976), cert. denied, 430 U.S. 954, 97 S.Ct. 1598, 51 L.Ed.2d 803 (1977); see also Wheat v. Thigpen, 793 F.2d 621, 631 (5th Cir.1986), cert. denied, — U.S. —-, 107 S.Ct. 1566, 94 L.Ed.2d 759 (1987)

Because we would uphold the district court’s finding that Bundy was competent to stand trial under either standard, we need not resolve this inconsistency. Instead, we will assume that the stricter ‘hard look’ standard applies and analyze the district court’s finding under that standard.

A bipolar mood disorder is better known as manic depressive mental illness. Bipolar mood disorders are characterized by wide changes in mood or mood swings. During the manic phase, the person can be loud, angry, violent, or grandiose. At the other extreme, the person would experience periods of extreme depression

The district court concluded: Upon reviewing the voluminous records in this case, observing the demeanor of each of the witnesses, and considering the expert testimony concerning Petitioner’s competency to stand trial for the murder of Kimberly Diane Leach, the Court accepts the testimony and opinions of Dr. Charles Mutter and Dr. U[m]esh Mha[t]re as being logical and consistent with the testimony of other witnesses, as well as the record evidence, tape recordings and video cassette recordings submitted for consideration in this cause. Accordingly, the Court finds that Petitioner, Theodore Robert Bundy, possessed sufficient present ability to consult with his attorneys with a reasonable degree of rational understanding, and that Petitioner had a rational as well as factual understanding of the proceeding against him at all relevant times during the trial and pretrial proceedings in the Kimberly Diane Leach murder case.

Petitioner appreciated the charges that were pending against him and he understood and appreciated the range and nature of the possible jeopardy he faced if convicted for the murder of Kimberly Diane Leach. Petitioner clearly understood the adversary nature of the proceedings in the Leach murder case and was well informed as to the legal process. Petitioner had the ability and capacity to disclose to his attorneys pertinent facts surrounding the murder of Kimberly Leach. Petitioner also related well with his attorneys in the Leach murder case, and Petitioner, on many occasions, assisted his attorneys during the course of the Leach murder trial and pretrial proceedings. Petitioner was clearly motivated to help his case, and he was actively involved in the planning of defense strategy. Further, it is clear from the numerous depositions taken by Petitioner that Petitioner was not only motivated to present a winning defense, but he was also an effective questioner. Finally, the Court notes that Petitioner had no problem adjusting to the stress of incarceration prior to trial. Consequently, the Court finds as a matter of law that Petitioner, Theodore Robert Bundy, was at all times competent to stand trial for the murder of Kimberly Diane Leach.

Bundy also raises claims concerning ineffective assistance of counsel relating to Bundy’s competence to stand trial. In light of our conclusion that Bundy was competent to stand trial, the related ineffective assistance of counsel claims lack merit.

Dr. Tanay’s testimony was from a deposition taken on December 14, 1987.

Bundy emphasizes in his brief that only Dr. Lewis had recently interviewed him and that Drs. Mutter and Mhatre had not. We agree with the explanation of Drs. Mutter and Mhatre that a recent interview was unnecessary because the narrow issue of focus was Bundy’s competence to stand trial at the time of the trial. Similarly, we reject the suggestion in Bundy’s brief that Dr. Mhatre’s opinion is entitled to less weight because Dr. Mhatre interviewed only one of Bundy’s defense lawyers. Dr. Mhatre interviewed Victor Africano, Bundy’s lawyer during the Lake City trial.

Bundy did express (out of the presence of the jury) dissatisfaction at the selection of one of the jurors. Considerable testimony before the district court, however, suggests that either the outburst was calculated to win favor from Bundy’s peers on death row or it was legitimate in light of the juror’s statements.

These tapes were to be used to prepare a book about Bundy.

We recognize that in the decision of remand this Court focused on ‘strong indicia’ of possible incompetence to stand trial. See Bundy II, 816 F.2d at 567. This Court cautioned, however, that a final determination could be made only after a full and fair evidentiary hearing. Id. at 568. Our review of the record in light of the district court’s observations concerning these indicia convinces us that what appeared as ‘strong indicia’ prior to the hearing are happenings that are consistent with a determination that Bundy was competent to stand trial.

Bundy claims in his federal habeas corpus petition that ‘the ground for the court’s denial was a contempt citation arising from Mr. Farmer’s persistent objection, in a Georgia criminal matter, to the prosecutor referring to the black defendant by his first name rather than by his surname, as the prosecutor referred to other persons in the proceeding.’ See para. 92 (emphasis added) (citing Farmer v. Holton, 146 Ga.App. 102, 245 S.E.2d 457 (1978) (overruled by In re Crane, 253 Ga. 667, 324 S.E.2d 443, 446 (1985)), cert. denied, 440 U.S. 958, 99 S.Ct. 1499, 59 L.Ed.2d 771 (1979)). We note that the trial court did not base its denial solely on the Farmer v. Holton decision. See R:14,121-22. For reasons set forth in the text infra, we do not evaluate the trial court’s denial of the motion to appear pro hac vice.

We agree with Bundy that the district court did not address the merits of the choice of counsel claim and thus erred in its reasoning for rejecting the related ineffective assistance of counsel claim. Because Bundy presented the ineffective assistance of counsel claim as an independent claim to the Florida courts, the exhaustion doctrine is not implicated here.

Because we do not agree that Bundy has satisfied the ’cause’ requirement, we do not examine whether Bundy demonstrated actual prejudice.

We also note that immediately after the denial of the motion to appear pro hac vice in the Leon County case, Bundy filed an action in federal court pursuant to 42 U.S.C. Sec. 1983. Bundy alleged that the denial violated his Sixth Amendment right to counsel. This Court, affirming on the basis of the district court’s opinion, concluded that Younger v. Harris, 401 U.S. 37, 91 S.Ct. 746, 27 L.Ed.2d 669 (1971), precluded a federal court from examining Bundy’s claim.

Accordingly, Bundy could not rely on the novelty of his legal claim as ’cause’ for noncompliance with Florida’s rules.

Bundy cannot argue that this claim is so novel as to constitute cause. See Smith, 477 U.S. at 536-37, 106 S.Ct. at 2667-68. Nor is this ‘an extraordinary case’ where the writ should be granted even absent a showing of cause. Bundy also suggests that the use of this testimony deprived him of his right to a jury trial. This claim is without merit.

Despite the reliance on harmless-constitutional-error cases, it is difficult to ascertain whether the Court relied on federal constitutional law or state evidence law in holding that hypnotically refreshed testimony is per se inadmissible in a criminal case. As discussed in the text infra, we conclude that such testimony is not per se inadmissible as a matter of federal constitutional law.

The Court cited three general characteristics of hypnosis as bases for inaccurate memories: ‘the subject becomes ‘suggestible’ and may try to please the hypnotist with answers the subject thinks will be met with approval; the subject is likely to ‘confabulate,’ that is, to fill in details from the imagination in order to make an answer more coherent and complete; and the subject experiences ‘memory hardening,’ which gives him great confidence in both true and false memories….’ 107 S.Ct. at 2713

Anderson explained that he delayed going to the police ‘because I wasn’t sure of what day I saw the girl. I wasn’t sure at all. I didn’t want to become involved in it. I saw one picture of Mr. Bundy. I looked at the picture. It did not closely resemble the man that I saw with the girl.; R21:4146. He added that ‘the only reason that I can give for not coming forward sooner is, as I stated before, not wanting to be involved, having a lot of other things on my mind at the time, not knowing the exact date that I saw the girl, halfway afraid of creating turmoil, needlessly seeing [sic] law enforcement on a wild goose chase.’ Id. at 4148; see id. at 4074

Bundy argues that the Florida Supreme Court improperly recognized a procedural bar because he raised this issue before the trial court in his motion to limit death qualification of the jury. See R159:14,658; app. 54. This motion does not appear to be based on the same ground as the claim raised on direct appeal. Rather, the motion appears directed at the distinction between the trial and sentencing phases. Cf. Lockhart v. McCree 476 U.S. 162, 180, 106 S.Ct. 1758, 1768, 90 L.Ed.2d 137 (1986) (state has ‘entirely proper interest’ in obtaining a single jury that could impartially decide all of the issues in a capital case). In addition, it appears Bundy argued the same rationale to the trial judge. See R126:11,375-80. Bundy also suggests in his brief that he voiced timely objections at voir dire. We have examined those passages and it again appears that the objections were directed at the distinction between the trial and sentencing phases. Consequently, it does not appear that Bundy raised the present claim before the trial court. We do not determine, however, whether this claim is subject to the procedural default doctrine. Rather, we conclude that the claim is without merit.

Our review of the record indicates that eight prospective jurors were excused because their views on the death penalty precluded them from returning a guilty verdict and/or from voting for the death penalty. Our review also indicates that their exclusion accorded with the standards set forth in Witherspoon and its progeny.

Indeed, this Court has intimated that federal evidence law does not require that the Frye test be met prior to the admission of evidence. This case, not concerning a federal conviction, presents us with no opportunity to address Hope’s intimation.

As set forth above, an evidentiary ruling is a cognizable ground for federal habeas corpus relief if it deprived the state court defendant of fundamental fairness, that is, the improperly admitted evidence was crucial and highly significant.

Because 28 U.S.C. Sec. 2254(d) does not accord a presumption of correctness to a state court’s determination of law, we read the district court as independently agreeing with the Florida Supreme Court’s analysis.

Although the state did agree to life sentences in this case and the Leon County case, Bundy appeared in open court at the joint plea proceeding, challenged the effectiveness of his counsel, and made a motion for replacement of counsel. At this point, the state withdrew the plea offer for fear that Bundy later would challenge his guilty pleas by claiming he had received ineffective assistance of counsel.

We do not fault the district court for its statement. Bundy erroneously stated in his habeas petition that the claim had not been raised on direct appeal.

We reject any notion that press coverage related to the evidence in the present case or related to Bundy’s activities in other states satisfies the heavy burden associated with presumed prejudice. Our review of the voir dire buttresses this conclusion; few prospective jurors had knowledge of the details of the present case or of Bundy’s out-of-state activities.

Three prospective jurors could not accord a presumption of innocence to a defendant in general. In addition to the 12 jurors and three alternates, 36 were excused on the basis of peremptory challenges, eight on the basis of Witherspoon, five for hearing improper comments of or engaging in improper discussion with other prospective jurors, four because of their reaction to the victim’s age or the planned introduction of photographs into evidence, one because of meeting the victim’s father, one because of being in Lake City at the time of the crime, and one because of believing that imposition of the death penalty was automatic upon conviction based on the facts alleged in the indictment.

The trial court rejected the defendant’s challenge for cause: ‘The Court finds that this prospective juror is competent to serve. It has not been shown that he has partiality and as shown by his total testimony, he is able to put aside anything he might have heard or any feelings he might have, and he is competent to serve.’

Q. Did you ever voice or feel that he was guilty before the verdict was handed down?
A. No. I’m one of the rare few that, without seeing or being there when the evidence was given, I really don’t think you can judge.
Q. Okay. And didn’t that ‘he must have done something,’ doesn’t that give you any tendency to feel that he must have been guilty of something?
A. No. It aroused a lot of curiosity, but I can’t judge anyone guilty just because there is a lot of publicity.
R18:3479.
Q. The feelings that you had about Mr. Bundy after the trial in Miami, which you have described as not being very good, do you still carry those feelings with you?
A. Sure.
Q. You do?
A. (Nods head affirmatively)
Q. Well, how do you feel about him as he sits there now?
A. He is a convicted murderer.
Q. Okay. Does that make you feel anything about the charges in this case?
A. Not in this case.
Q. Does the fact that the State of Florida has brought an indictment against him and prosecuting him make you feel that he is in some way guilty of that charge?
A. Not of this charge.
Q. The fact that you know he is a convicted murderer, as you put it, doesn’t make you feel any less like giving him all the presumptions of innocence that the Court has instructed you about?
A. No. The State has to prove that he is guilty in this particular case.
Q. Okay. But how are you going to take out of your mind the bad feelings you have about Mr. Bundy, the fact that you described him as a convicted murderer, and then just look at that evidence totally and completely objectively?
A. He is innocent in this case until the State of Florida proves him guilty. As a juror, I have to listen to the evidence in this case…. Whether I like him or not, what I think about him in the past has to have nothing to do with this case. I will attempt to do that.
Q. I understand you will attempt to do that, but, because I’m not going to get a chance to discuss with you later, and, once you’re passed on as a juror, it’s too late, if you don’t think that you really can do it. This is why we have this opportunity to deal with this at this point in time. And as Mr. Bundy’s lawyer, I need to know how you feel about him. Are you so opinionated about him personally that it might affect your perception about the evidence in this case?
A. Not as far as this case is concerned.
R18:3483-85.
Q. Is what you know and, as a person, feel about Mr. Bundy going to make the State’s burden any less in proving guilt beyond and to the exclusion of every reasonable doubt?
A. No.
Q. If, at the conclusion of the State’s case or all of the evidence in this case, you feel that the State hasn’t quite met its burden, but you do have a reasonable doubt, that this defense has not come forward with any evidence or Ted Bundy did not take the stand and testify and tell you he didn’t do it, is what you know about him and feel about him personally, is that going to make you resolve that reasonable doubt against him?
A. No.
Q. If you resolve in your own mind, at the conclusion of all of the evidence, that the State has not met its burden and you feel and find in your own mind that Ted Bundy is not guilty, would you hold firm in that resolve?
A. Sure.
Q. Even if you were a majority of one of twelve people?
A. (Nods head affirmatively).
R18:3488-89.

Trial Transcript: Carol Ann DaRonch, February 23, 1976.

Tiffany Jean transcribed the following testimony of Carol DaRonch under direct examination by Deputy County Attorney David Yocom and is from the transcript of Case No. 28629 in the Third District Court of SLC, The State of Utah vs. Theodore Robert Bundy.

Q. Will you state your name and address, please.

A. Carol Ann DaRonch, 5456 South Seventh West.

Q. Carol, I am going to ask you to keep your voice up–the acoustics in here are not the best in the world—so the Judge and counsel can hear. Okay?

A: Okay.

Q: How old are you, Carol?

A: Nineteen.

Q: And what is your birth date?

A: June 8th, 1956.

Q: And how old were you on the 8th day of November, 1974?

A: Eighteen.

Q: And where did you reside at that time, Carol?

A: With my parents.

Q: At the same address?

A: Yes.

Q: Did you own an automobile at that time?

A: Yes.

Q: Would you describe for the Court the type of car you owned?

A: It’s a ’74 maroon Camaro.

Q: Where did you work at that time, if you did?

A: Mountain Dell.

Q: Where is that located?

A: 205 East Second South.

Q: What did you do there?

A: Typist.

Q: Have you had an opportunity, Carol, to check the record with your employer to determine what hours you worked on the 8th day of November, on Friday, 1974?

A: Yes.

Q: And when did you work?

A: I worked from 9:00 to 6:00.

Q: And where did you go after you got off work at 6:00 p.m. that day?

A: I went straight home.

Q: Do you know how long it takes you to get home from Mountain Bell?

A: About 20 minutes.

Q: Do you recall what you did at home?

A: No.

Q: Do you recall the next thing you did?

A: I went to Fashion Place Mall.

Q: And why did you go there?

A: I just went there shopping. I was looking for a birthday present.

Q: Anyone go with you?

A: No.

Q: And not long after you got home did you park at Fashion Place Mall?

A: About 15 to 20 minutes.

Q: Do you recall when, approximately, you arrived at the mall?

A: About 7:00.

Q: Where did you go after you arrived at the Mall— the parking lot, specifically?

A: I parked in Sears’ parking lot.

Q: And where is that located in relationship to the Sears store itself?

A: On the west side of Sears.

Fashion Place Mall Salt Lake City Utah Carol DaRonch Ted Bundy

Sears west parking lot, Fashion Place Mall, 1976.

Q: What did you do after you parked your vehicle there?

A: I got out of my car, and I walked into the Sears store.

Q: Did you stay in the Sears store any length of time?

A: No. I walked through it.

Q: And where did you exit the Sears store?

A: Where it goes into the mall.

Q. You entered and exited the Sears store and proceeded along the main part of the Mall?

A: Yes.

Q: And then you went west in the Mall?

A: Yes.

Q: How far west did you go?

A: To the Castleton’s store.

Q: After you made a left-hand turn and turned down the mall, how far did you go there?

A: Almost to Auerbach’s. To Walden’s Book Store.

Q: During this period of time, did you have any period of conversation or see anyone you knew?

A: Yes.

Q: And who was that?

A: My cousin.

Q: And what is her name?

A: Joanne DaRonch.

Q: And where did that discussion take place, and conversation? About midway in the corridor?

A: Yes.

Q: Was anyone with your cousin?

A: Yes.

Q: Who was that?

A: Jolynne Turner.

Q: And how long did that conversation last?

A: Just a couple of minutes.

Q: What did you do then?

A: Walked down toward Walden’s Book Store.

Q: What did you do at Walden’s?

A: I stopped and looked in the window of the book store.

Q: Did anything happen then?

A: Yes. I turned around, and a man approached me.

Q: Approached you from which direction?

A: I’m not sure.

Q: How long had you been at the window when you first noticed this man?

A: A couple minutes. It wasn’t until I turned around that he came to me.

Q: Did you see him right in front of you, or behind you, or how?

A: Face to face.

Q: How were you dressed at that time, Carol?

A: Had Levi’s on, and a leather coat with fur around it.

Q: How long had you had that coat?

A: A couple weeks.

Q: Was it relatively new then?

A: Yes.

Q: Okay. As best you recall Carol, what were the first words spoken to you by this man?

A: He asked me if I had a car parked in the Sears parking lot.

Q: Parking lot?

A: Yes.

Q: Is that man present in court today, Carol?

Q: Yes.

A: Where is he seated?

Q: Right there (indicated).

A: Will you tell me what he is wearing?

Q: A blue-gray suit.

A: You are referring to the counsel table?

A: Yes.

MR. YOCOM: May the record show the identification of Mr. Bundy?

MR. O’CONNELL: It may.

THE COURT: It will.

MR. YOCOM: Take your time, Carol. Let’s go through it slowly, okay? Now, he asked you if you had a car parked in the Sears parking lot?

A: Yes.

Q: What did you say?

A: I told him yes, I did.

Q: What did he say?

A: He said someone was seen trying to break into it.

Q: Go on, what happened then?

A: He asked me what the license plate number was, and I told him—

Q: What did you tell him the number was?

A: KTO 32.

Q: Did he respond to that?

A: He said yes, that’s the one.

Q: What happened then?

A: Then he asked me if I wanted to go out to the car with him to see if anything was missing. So we walked out the doors between Auerbach’s and Roper’s, out to my car.

Q: Let’s go back a little bit. Did he mention any official capacity that he had? What he was doing and why he was interested in your car?

A: I don’t remember.

Q: Did he say anything about being a police officer at that time?

A: I think so.

Q: Did he say what police department or agency he worked for?

A: No.

Q: Then you say you proceeded away from Walden’s Book Store and went out in the parking lot, is that right?

A: Yes.

Q: As best you can recall, Carol, what were the lighting conditions inside the mall in front of the Walden’s Book Store?

A: It was well lit.

Q: And the area from Walden’s to the exit by Auerbach’s, how was the lighting there?

A: Very bright.

Q: Now, as you were walking to the car, was there any conversation between yourself and Mr. Bundy?

MR. O’CONNELL: Your Honor, I object to Mr. Yocom referring to this man as “Mr. Bundy.” I realize she has identified him, and I suppose if she wants to do it, that’s all right. All the way through these proceedings he, whenever he is talking to this lady, refers to the person as “Mr. Bundy,” and is reinforcing in her mind the identification. I object to it.

THE COURT: Alright, well the objection is sustained for the purposes that Mr. O’Connell has based the objection on.

MR. YOCOM: I don’t understand the Court’s ruling. She has so identified him, and he has admitted that is his name in this courtroom today. He is the Defendant and I think I’m entitled to refer to him by his name, your Honor.

THE COURT: The objection is sustained.

MR. YOCOM. Thank you.

Q: As you proceeded to the car, did you have any conversation with this man?

MR. O’CONNELL: Well, I object to that for the same reason. It’s leading, and he keeps suggesting to her, and that’s what these officers have been doing for the last six months.

MR. YOCOM: There’s no jury here, John. Let me rephrase the question.

Q: Did you have a conversation with the man?

MR. O’CONNELL: That’s why I have an objection.

THE COURT: I understand.

Q: Did you have any conversation with the man, Carol?

A: No.

Q: And do you recall who walked in front or behind, or how you walked to your car?

A: No.

Q: Where was he at this time.

A: He was walking alongside of me.

Q: Do you recall on your right or left?

A: I don’t recall.

Q: When you got to the car, what did you do?

A: I opened my side of the door and got in— I didn’t get all the way in; I just looked in to see if anything was missing.

Q: Is it a two door or a four-door automobile?

A: Two.

Q: And which door did you open?

A: The driver’s side.

Q: And was the car locked at that time?

A: Yes.

Q: Did you notice anything unusual about the car?

A: No.

Q: And when you looked in, did you notice anything unusual?

A: No.

Q: Now, where was this individual at the time you opened the door?

A: Standing by the door.

Q: Which door?

A: The driver’s side.

Q: Across from you?

A: No. He was standing next to me by the car door that I opened.

Q: What happened then?

A: Then I told him nothing was missing, and he walked around to the passenger’s side of the car, and he tried to open the door.

Q: Go on?

A: He said— He asked me if I was sure nothing was gone, and I said no, nothing was. So I shut the door.

Q: The driver’s side door?

A: Yes.

Q: Was the passenger’s side door ever opened?

A: No.

Q: Did he say anything to you about that?

A: No.

Q: What happened then?

A: And then he said they had a man inside that was seen trying to break into my car, and they were holding him inside the mall. So he came back around the side of the car, and we walked back in towards the mall between Sears and the mall, the exit that goes between there.

Q: Did he say who “they” were?

A: No.

Q: How were the lighting conditions in the parking lot at that time?

A: There were street lights that are in the parking lot.

Q: What were the weather conditions that evening? Do you remember?

A: It was a little bit rainy.

Q: When you walked back in the mall, what entrance did you go in?

A: I went in between Sears and the mall.

Q: What happened at that point, Carol?

A: He looked up towards Sears and down towards the mall, and he said they must have taken him down to the substation.

Q: Again, did he say who “they” were?

A: I don’t recall.

Q: Had he mentioned any time up til then why he was with you?

A: I believe he said he was a police officer.

Q: Do you recall at what time he said that?

A: No.

Q: Were you aware at that time whether or not there was a substation in Fashion Place Mall?

A: No.

Q: Now, after you stopped where did he go from there?

A: Walked out the exit straight across from where we just walked in.

Q: And you walked outside?

A: Yes.

Q: What happened then?

A: We walked around the building over by Castleton’s.

Q: He did or you did?

A: We both did. And he talked to me, asked me two things: He asked me how old I was, and if I was doing anything later that night, why I wouldn’t be able to come down, go over there with him and sign a complaint against the man who was trying to break into my car.

Q: And were these conversations while you were walking?

A: Yes.

Q: Was he in front of you or you to the side of him or behind him?

A: I was a little behind him.

Q: Did you have a chance to observe him as you were walking?

A: Yes.

Q: What did you observe?

A: The way he walked.

Q: Anything else?

A: His pants.

Q: What did you notice about those?

A: They were green.

Q: Anything else?

A: No.

Q: When he talked to you, was he looking forward or at you?

A: He was looking sideways at me.

Q: How close were you to him while you were walking?

A: Right next to each other.

Q: On which side?

A: I was on the left side, and he was on the right side.

Q: Is there any lighting as you walk along there that you noticed, Carol?

A: No.

Q: Could you see his facial features as you were walking?

A: Yes.

Q: After you reentered the mall, what happened then?

A: We walked back out through the other exit on the west side.

Q: Do you know what is located in that area, what stores?

A: Farnell’s and Broadway.

Q: Farnell’s Ice Cream store?

A: Yes.

Q: Did you have any conversation with him while you were inside the mall between entering and exiting again?

A: No.

Q: What sort of pace were you walking, how fast?

A: I don’t know.

Q: Did you notice anything unusual about it?

A: No.

Q: How would you describe it as far as your normal pace of walking?

A: Fast.

Q: Fairly fast?

A: Yes.

Q: After you exited the mall, where did you go then?

A: Walked down toward Skaggs.

Q: Did you stop there?

A: No.

Q: Where did you go from there?

A: To the laundromat on the other side of the street.

Q: Okay. Now, what is that street you have indicated there?

A: 6100 South.

Q: Where did you go when you got to that laundromat?

A: To a door that was on the side of the laundromat.

Q: Where did he go?

A: He walked to the door and tried to open it, and it was locked. So he walked down the alley between this building and the laundromat.

Q: Where did you remain at that time?

A: Where I was, out in front on the sidewalk.

Q: You stayed on the sidewalk?

A: Yes.

Q: How far down the alley did he go?

A: He walked about halfway down.

Q: Then what happened?

A: Then he turned around and came back.

Q: What happened then, Carol?

A: I didn’t know what he was doing, so I asked if I could see his badge or some identification.

Q: Where did that take place?

A: Right where I was standing in front of the laundromat.

Q: Why did you ask him at that time, Carol?

A: Because I didn’t know why he walked down the alley and walked back, and why the door wouldn’t be open if it was a substation.

Q: What did he do?

A: Took a wallet out and showed me a badge that was inside the wallet he had.

Q: Did you see where he got that wallet from?

A: No.

Q: Did he have any sort of jacket or coat on?

A: He had a jacket on.

Q: Do you recall the color of that jacket?

A: No.

Q: Did he say anything to you when he produced the wallet?

A: I can’t remember.

Q: Can you describe the badge that he showed you?

A: I think it was silver.

Q: Was it in the wallet itself?

A: Yes.

Q: How large was it?

A: It wasn’t really big. It was kind of oval-shaped.

Q: Did you notice any printing on the badge?

A: No.

Q: Any further conversation take place at that time?

A: He asked me if I would come down to the station with him, because they probably had him down there, and fill out a complaint against him.

Q: Did you respond to that?

A: Yes.

Q: What did you say?

A: I said, “all right.”

Q: How were the lighting conditions at this time on the sidewalk in front of the laundromat?

A: There were street lights and there were lights from the laundromat.

Q: Could you see his facial features at that time?

A: Yes.

Q: How close were you to him?

A: He was right in front of me when he was showing me the badge.

Q: At that time did you get an impression of how tall he was?

A: Yes.

Q: And what was that impression?

A: About six feet.

Q: How did you determine that, Carol?

A: By my own height.

Q: How tall are you?

A: Five seven.

Q: Do you have occasion to be around people about six foot tall very often?

A: Yes.

Q: How about his physical build, his weight, structure? Did you get an impression as to that by then?

A: Yes.

Q: How much would you say that he weighed at that time, or how was he built?

A: He was slim.

Q: An idea or an estimate of how much he weighed?

A: 160 or so— I don’t know.

Q: Anything about his facial features that you noticed at that time?

A: The way his hair was. Greased back off his forehead.

Q: Did you notice any foreign substance on the hair?

A: Oil.

Q: Anything else about his facial features?

A: No.

Q: Did you notice whether he had any facial hair?

A: Yes. A mustache.

Q: Describe that for us.

A: Whether big or bushy?

Q: Just your impression of it.

A: I don’t know, it was just an average-looking mustache?

Q: Light or dark? Heavy?

A: It was dark.

Q: How long?

A: It came about down to here.

Q: You are indicating above the corners of the mouth?

A: Yes.

Q: After your conversation with him there on the sidewalk, what happened then?

A: We walked over to his car.

Q: Where was his car parked?

A: It was parked across the street from the lobby.

Q: How far?

A: I’m not sure of that.

Q: What direction was the car headed while it was parked there?

A: East.

Q: That would be east on 6100 South?

A: Yes.

Q: And what kind of car was it, Carol?

A: It was a Volkswagen.

Q: When you got to the car, what did you do?

A: Got in the car, and he got in the car.

Q: Where did you get in, and where did he gt in?

A: He got in on the driver’s side. I got in on the passenger’s side.

Q: Now did you notice anything unusual about the vehicle at the time you got in it?

A: Yes. It had— the top of the back seat was ripped. Before I got in it, I noticed that it had rust spots on the front. It didn’t have a license plate.

Q: Anything else?

A: No.

Q: Was there any lighting in the area where you got into the vehicle?

A: No.

Q: Were there any lights coming from the Fashion Place Mall parking lot?

A: Yes, from Skaggs.

Q: What was your impression as to the color of the car at that time, Carol?

A: It was a light color. White or beige.

Q: Did you notice anything further about the interior of the car?

A: Just that it had a ripped top of the back seat.

Q: How far did that rip go, or cover, in the back seat of the car?

A: Almost all the way across it. Not quite.

Q: After you got into the car, was there any conversation that took place between you and him at that time?

A: He put on a seat belt and told me that, you know, he would like me to put on my seat belt. I told him no, I didn’t want to. He said, “okay.”

Q: Was there any particular reason why you refused to put on the seat belt?

A: I just didn’t want to.

Q: What was your attitude toward him at this time, Carol?

A: I didn’t know what to think.

Q: What do you mean? Let me ask you this, Carol: Were you frightened at that time?

MR. O’CONNELL: I object to the leading.

THE COURT: Sustained.

Q: What was going through your mind at this time, Carol?

MR. O’CONNELL: I object now. He asked her the question, she couldn’t think of the answer. Since I objected because it’s leading now he asks the question again. I think he ought to drop the matter.

THE COURT: The objection is overruled.

Q: What was going through your mind at that time, Carol?

A: I wasn’t sure about it.

Q: What do you mean by that?

A: He was a stranger.

Q: Okay. After you got into the car and you had this conversation about the seat belts, what happened then?

A: He made a U-turn. The car was facing west. He made a U-turn going east?

Q: You originally said the car was facing east. Was it facing west towards State Street?

A: Yes.

Q: And he made a U-turn in the opposite direction?

A: Yes.

Q: Which would have been east, is that correct?

A: Yes.

Q: Where did the car go then?

A: To the end of the street, then it turned left.

Q: Were there any lights inside the car?

A: I don’t remember.

Q: Could you see him at that time?

A: Yes.

Q: How close were you to him?

A: Sitting in the next seat.

Q: How far away would that be?

A: I don’t know.

Q: Have you ever been in a VW before?

A: Yes.

Q: How far away are the seats in a VW?

A: They are close. They are next to each other.

Q: Are they bucket type seats?

A: Yes.

Q: Okay. When you made the U-turn and proceeded east—

A: Yes.

Q: —where did he go from there?

A: He turned left and crossed a street and pulled over by McMillan School.

Q: Did the car stop for any reason on that trip that you have described?

A: No.

Q: For any stop signs that you noticed?

A: Yes.

Q: Where were they located?

A: Right here.

Q: You are indicating here which is the intersection of 300 East and 5900 South?

A: Yes.

Q: Did the car stop here at this corner?

A: Yes.

Q: Is there a stop sign there?

A: Yes.

Q: Was there any conversation between you and him while you were in the vehicle up until the time it stopped?

A: No.

Q: Could you describe how that stop occurred?

A: He pulled up on the curb a little bit and came back down, then stopped.

Q: What do you mean, “pulled up on the curb”?

A: Two wheels went up over the curb.

Q: Which wheels? Which side of the car?

A: On the right side.

Q: After he brought the car to a stop, what happened next?

A: I started— I asked him what he was doing, this wasn’t the police station. I just wanted to know what he was doing, why he was stopping. He didn’t say anything. He grabbed my arm and put a handcuff around it.

Q: Did you see where he got the handcuff from?

A: No.

Q: Had you noticed those handcuffs prior to this time?

A: Yes. In his jacket.

Q: Where in the course of the events did you notice it? Where were you located?

A: Back at the Sears parking lot.

Q: Where did you see it at that time on his person?

A: In his jacket.

Q: Interior or exterior pocket?

A: Interior.

Q: Breast pocket, like I am indicating here?

A: Yes.

Q: How did you happen to see them back in the Sears parking?

A: When he tried to open the door, his jacket came open.

Q: Now, if you can Carol, describe how he grabbed you when he put the handcuffs on your arm.

A: He grabbed my left arm, I think it’s with his right arm, and put the handcuffs on with his left hand.

Q: Where did he have ahold of your arm?

A: By the wrist, right here.

Q: Did he say anything at that time?

A: No.

Q: What happened then?

A: Then I put my right hand on the door to open it, and he grabbed me by the arm around the neck this way.

Q: Which arm around the neck?

A: I think it was his right arm.

Q: Around your neck?

A: Yes.

Q: What were you doing at this time, Carol?

A: I think I had the door open, and my foot was out of it.

Q: Were you saying anything?

A: I just kept screaming, asking him what he was doing, and he never said anything.

Q: What happened then?

A: And then he pulled the gun out and said he was going to blow my head off.

Q: Did you see where he got the gun?

A: No.

Q: Did you see what hand he had it in?

A: No.

Q: What did you see of the gun?

A: That it was small and black.

Q: Did you see where it was pointed?

A: At me.

Q: What part of your body?

A: I’m not sure.

Q: Did he have ahold of you at that time?

A: Yes.

Q: Where?

A: By the arm.

Q: What were you doing at this time?

A: Trying to get out of the car door.

Q: Okay. What happened then?

A: I got out of the car door, and he came out after me across the seat.

Q: Did he still have ahold of you at any time you got out?

A: I think so.

Q: How did he get out of the car?

A: Came across the passenger’s side out the same door I got out of.

Q: Were you then both outside the vehicle?

A: Yes.

Q: What’s the next thing you recall happening?

A: We were facing each other. I was fighting with him. I tried to get loose. I remember grabbing hold of his arm and his hand and feeling that he had a bar in his hand.

Q: You were fighting with him?

A: Yes.

Q: What were you doing?

A: I was screaming as loud as I could. I was turning away and pulling, scratching.

Q: You have fairly long fingernails today, Carol. Were they that length then?

A: Longer.

Q: Where were you scratching?

A: His arm.

Q: Did he at any time get his arm around you?

A: No.

Q: Behind your head?

MR. O’CONNELL: I object to that. He’s leading, and counsel just motioned to her.

THE COURT: Sustained.

Q: What arm were you scratching him?

A: I’m not sure.

Q: Now, you say you felt a bar?

A: Yes.

Q: Will you describe it for us?

A: Had four sides or six sides.

Q: And where was that?

A: In his hand.

Q: What hand?

A: His right hand.

Q: Where did you feel it?

A: In his hand, around it.

Q: Would you show me how he had that?

A: He had it in his hand, and I had my hand around it, keeping it from coming down on me.

Q: Would you show me how he had it and where you were at the time?

A: He had it up in  the air, and I had my hand up like that.

Q: With one hand or two?

A: One.

Q: Did you get the impression of how large the object was?

A: No.

Q: How big around it was?

A: Yes.

Q: How big was it?

A: About this big.

MR. O’CONNELL: Indicating what, about a half inch?

THE COURT: Approximately.

MR. YOCOM: Thereabouts.

Q: Did you get an impression as to what that object was, Carol?

A: Yes.

Q: What?

A: My impression was that it was a crowbar.

Q: Why did you get that impression.

A: Because I know what they feel like.

Q: How do you know that?

A: Because my dad has one.

Q: Have you felt his crowbar before?

A: Yes.

Q: What was your impression at that time, Carol, as to what he was doing with that crowbar?

MR. O’CONNELL: I object, your Honor. In the first place, I think I should have objected when he asked about the impression and various things. I don’t know what that means. Does that mean he is asking her to guess? Now he is asking her for an opinion as to what somebody’s intent was. I think that is totally improper.

THE COURT: The objection is sustained as to that question.

Q: What was he doing with the crowbar?

A: He was trying to hit me with it.

Q: What made you believe that?

A: Because he was pushing it down on me.

Q: Did you ever have ahold of the crowbar with more than one hand?

A: No.

Q: Which hand did you have ahold of it with?

A: My left hand.

Q: What was he doing with his other hand?

A: I am not— I don’t know. I guess he just had hold of me.

Q: What happened next, Carol?

A: And then I finally broke loose and ran around the front of the car, ran out to the street.

Q: Broke loose from his hold?

A: Yes.

Q: In which direction did you run?

A: Out in front of the car.

Q: The VW?

A: Yes.

Q: Did you see anything at that point?

A: Just that a car was coming.

Q: How did you determine that?

A: I could see its lights.

Q: Did you look back at all?

A: No.

Q: What did you do?

A: I was waving and jumping up and down, and they stopped. I got in the car.

Q: Who opened the door to the car?

A: I don’t remember.

Q: What did you do when you opened the car door— when the door opened, excuse me?

A: I jumped in.

Q: Was there anyone in the car on the passenger’s side?

A: Yes.

Q: Is that the side you got into?

A: Yes.

Q: Who was that?

A: A man and a lady.

Q: What did you do after you got inside?

A: I don’t remember much.

Q: How would you describe your condition at that time?

A: I was hysterical.

Q: Where did you go in this car?

A: I remember asking them to take me to the police station.

Q: Did they?

A: Yes.

Q: What police station did they take you to?

A: Murray.

Q: Did you at any time look back for the car, the VW?

A: When we were driving off, I was in the car with the man and lady.

Q: Did you see it?

A: Yes.

Q: Where was it?

A: It was still parked in the same place, and it was— and he turned around and went back from the same direction he came, and turned left.

Q: Turned left on what street?

A: 5900 South.

Q: So it would have been a left-hand turn on 5900 South?

A: Yes.

Q: Carol, you said you had gotten in the vehicle, then you proceeded somewhere. Where did you go? Not the exact route you took. Where did you end up, I should say?

A: By McMillan School.

MR. O’CONNELL: I think she’s talking— make it clear, the police station. Go ahead, lead her.

MR. YOCOM: Thank you, Mr. O’Connell. I will make it clear.

Q: After you got into the car that stopped for you in the street, where did those people take you?

A: To the police station.

Q: Murray Police Station?

A: Yes.

Q: Do you know where that is located?

A: No, not exactly.

Q: When you arrived there, what is the first thing you recall happening?

A: They asked me what happened.

Q: Do you remember having the handcuffs removed from your arm?

A: Yes.

Q: Do you know what officer did that?

A: No.

Q: Did you give a statement to the officer at that time?

A: Yes.

Q: Do you recall how many different Murray Police officers you talked to that evening?

A: No.

Q: Do you recall the description you gave to them of this man you were with?

A: Yes.

Q: Do you remember telling them anything further about his appearance than what you have already testified to, what he was wearing?

A: No.

Q: Do you recall during any time in walking around the mall of seeing the type of shoes he was wearing?

A: Yes.

Q: Will you describe those for us?

A: They were patent leather.

Q: And the color?

A: They were a dark color.

Q: Why do you remember the shoes, Carol?

A: Because I was watching him walk, and I noticed his shoes and his pants.

Q: Were you looking down?

A: Yes.

Q: While you were in the Murray police station that night, did you observe any photographs?

A: Yes.

Q: And what sort of photographs did you look at?

A: Ones in a book, I think one book, and just some pictures they had.

Q: And how many did you look at?

A: I’m not sure.

Q: Did you look at any other photographs after that time, the next few days following this incident?

A: Yes.

Q: Do you recall where you were at when you looked at them?

A: Yes.

Q: Where was that?

A: At work.

Q: And how many did you see then?

A: About eight or nine.

Q: Did you look at any other photographs after that time?

A: Yes.

Q: About how many times, separate times, did the officer show you photographs?

A: About three or four times.

Q: Do you recall seeing the photograph of a vehicle, a car?

A: Yes.

Q: Do you recall who showed you that photograph?

A: I think it was Jerry Thompson.

Q: Carol, do you recall when Officer Thompson showed you those photographs, the approximate date?

A: No.

Q: I show you what’s been marked for identification purposes as State’s Proposed Exhibit 20, and ask you if you have ever seen that photograph before?

A: Yes.

Q: Is that the photograph that Officer Thompson showed you?

A: Yes.

Q: Likewise with State’s Proposed Exhibit 21, did you observe that photograph at the same time?

A: Yes.

Q: About how long ago did this occur, Carol?

A: I’m not sure.

Q: A month?

A: October, November.

Q: How does Exhibit 20 with regard to content of that photograph compare with what you observed about the Defendant’s vehicle, particularly the back seat, on November 8, 1974?

A: The way it’s ripped and the way the stuffing is coming out.

Q: How does that compare with what you saw?

A: Looks exactly like it.

Q: And with regard to Exhibit 21, showing a VW automobile, how does that compare with the vehicle that you saw on November 8, 1974.

A: The dent in the door and the side.

Q: Did you observe such a dent at that time?

A: Yes.

Q: Carol, did you have an occasion to observe any other photo displays by any other officers?

A: Yes.

Q: Do you recall when or what officers showed you photo displays?

A: Jerry Thompson showed me some. The Bountiful Police showed me some.

Q: Did you ever observe what is commonly known as “mug shots” at the Salt Lake County Sheriff’s Office on the ninth floor?

A: Yes.

Q: Would you give me a rough estimate of about how many photographs you were asked to look at during this period of time from November 8th, say, until around August 1st?

A: How many individual ones I have seen altogether?

Q: Yes, including those in the mug books.

A: I don’t know. A lot.

Q: Closer area than “a lot”?

A: No.

Q: Would it be more than a hundred?

A: Yes.

Q: Less than a thousand?

A: Yes.

Q: Prior to August of 1975, Carol, had you ever identified anyone in those photographs as being your assailant on November 8, 1974?

A: No.

Q: When was the first time that you saw a picture of the Defendant in this action, Mr. Bundy?

A: I think it was Jerry Thompson who showed me.

Q: Do you recall the date of that?

A: No.

Q: Now, speaking generally, when you were asked to look at these photographs, Carol, what would the officers tell you before they gave you photographs to look at?

A: Just that they had some photographs for me to look at, if I saw anything that looked anything like this man, to pick it out; if I didn’t, not to pick one out.

Q: Approximately how many photographs did they show you each time?

A: About eight or nine.

Q: When Jerry Thompson showed you the photographs which contained Mr. Bundy’s photograph, how many photographs did you look at then?

A: About nine.

Q: Do you recall what you told him on that occasion with regard to Mr. Bundy’s photograph?

A: No.

Q: Where were you when this took place?

A: At work.

Q: Do you recall generally how the conversation went? First of all, when he handed you the photographs, what did he say to you?

A: Just to look through them.

Q: Do you recall what you did when you got to Mr. Bundy’s photograph?

A: I think I put it aside and put it in my lap. On my knee.

Q: Then what happened?

A: What do you mean?

Q: After you put the photograph on your lap, did you go through the rest of the photographs?

A: Yes.

Q: And when you got through all of them, what did you do?

A: I handed him the one.

Q: The one back?

A: Yes.

Q: What was said then?

A: I don’t remember.

Q: Do you remember what you told him?

A: No.

Q: Had you at any time up until that time ever seen a photograph of the man sitting at counsel table here, Mr. Theodore Bundy?

A: No.

Q: Had you ever picked out what we refer to as “look-alikes”?

A: Yes.

Q: Do you remember how many times you told the officer that a particular picture looked like the man or had a similar characteristic?

A: No.

Q: Was it a lot or a few?

A: It was a few.

Q: Just a few?

A: Yes.

Q: When is the next time you remember seeing a photograph of Mr. Bundy?

A: I’m not sure.

Q: How long after you saw the photograph that Jerry Thompson had?

A: About two weeks.

Q: Do you remember who showed you that photograph?

A: I think it was the Bountiful Police.

Q: Do these photographs differ in any way from the photographs that you saw that Officer Thompson had? Were they different kinds of photographs?

A: Yes.

Q: What kind were they?

A: Driver’s license.

Q: Do you remember how many that officer showed you?

A: No.

Q: Did you see a picture of Mr. Bundy in that photograph display?

A: I don’t remember.

Q: Do you remember picking someone out?

A: I think so.

Q: Did you have an occasion on the 2nd day of October, 1975, to appear at the Metropolitan Hall of Justice at what is commonly referred to as a lineup, Carol?

A: Yes.

Q: Let me ask you this: did you see a number of participants in that lineup at that time?

A: Yes.

Q: What were you told before the lineup in regard to what was going to happen and what you were supposed to do, if anything?

A: I was supposed to watch them, what they did, not talk to anyone, if I thought— if I saw the man, if I did, to write the number down.

Q: Can you remember how the lineup was conducted, what took place?

A: They walked and they had them talk.

Q: Each one of the members of the lineup?

A: Yes.

Q: Was the Defendant in that lineup?

A: Yes.

Q: Did you have an opportunity to hear him speak at that time?

A: Yes.

Q: Did you have an opportunity to see him walk?

A: Yes.

Q: And did you pick out an individual as being the man that was— and you were in his car on November 8, 1974?

A: Yes.

Q: What number did you pick?

A: Seven.

Q: What time during the course of the lineup did you recognize that individual?

A: When he walked out.

Q: “Walked out,” what do you mean?

A: When they first walked out.

Q: Walked out onto the stage in the lineup room, you mean?

A: Yes.

Q: Were you at that time able to identify him from your recollection of him on November 8th, Carol?

A: Yes.

Q: Did you have any trouble?

A: No.

Q: Did he appear any different then than he did on November 8th?

A: Yes.

Q: In what way?

A: He looked more clean-cut. His hair was shorter. He didn’t have a mustache.

Q: Did you notice anything about his appearance that was identical to the way you observed him on November 8th?

A: The way he walked.

Q: Anything else?

A: His face.

Q: Any particular part of his face?

A: No.

Q: Do you remember any distinctive features, anything about his voice? Do you recall going back to November 8th and hearing it?

A: No.

Q: How would you describe his manner of speaking, to use that term on November 8th, Carol?

A: What do you mean?

Q: Well, was there any particular thing about his voice that stood out in your mind or the way he spoke, the words he used?

A: He was polite, sounded like he was well educated, by the way he talked.

Q: Carol, I show you now what has been marked as State’s Proposed Exhibit 23. Do you recognize that jacket?

A: Yes.

Q: And is that the jacket you were wearing on November 8, 1974?

A: Yes.

Q: After you got home that evening Carol, did you notice anything unusual about that jacket?

A: Yes.

Q: Can you explain to the Court what you noticed at that time?

A: It had blood around one of— the fur of one of the sleeves and around the collar.

Q: Would you show us on the coat where that was located?

A: Up on here. I don’t remember what sleeve it was on, which one.

Q: You are indicating which would be to the back of the jacket?

A: Yes.

Q: On the fur collar?

A: Yes.

Q: What did you do after you noticed that? Did you tell anyone about it?

A: It wasn’t until Monday— the Monday that, when the officer Joel Riet came up to show me some pictures that I told him there was some blood on my coat, and he told me to go get it for him, and I got him the coat, and he cut the fur off some of it.

Q: Cut the fur off the coat collar and the sleeve where the blood was located?

A: Yes.

MR. YOCOM: No further questions.

Part II:

CROSS EXAMINATION BY MR. JOHN O’CONNELL:

Q: Miss DaRonch, did you tell the police on the evening of November 8th, 1974, when you talked to them, that there was anything in particular about the way the man walked?

A: No.

Q: Did you tell them there was anything about the way he talked that was unusual?

A: No.

Q: You said he was just average, didn’t you?

A: Yes.

Q: When did you decide that he sounded like he was well educated?

A: I have told them that before.

Q: When?

A: I don’t know when exactly, but I told them that before.

Q: Before September, ’75?

A: Yes.

Q: Who did you tell?

A: I think it was someone from the Bountiful Police.

Q: Did someone from the Bountiful Police talk to you about the suspect they had up in Bountiful?

A: No.

Q: Did you testify previously about looking at a sketch and saying that it didn’t look like the person because the mustache was different?

A: What sketch?

Q: Well did you look at the sketch of any individual?

A: One.

Q: Who showed it to you?

A: A security guy at Mountain Bell.

Q: Nobody from the Bountiful Police ever showed you their sketch?

A: I don’t know if he got the sketch from Bountiful.

A direct scan of the original composite sketch in the Debra Kent case, 1974. Courtesy Bountiful Police Department.

Q: Showing you what has been marked as Defendant’s Proposed Exhibit 24, is that the sketch you were shown?

A: Yes.

Q: Did you see this brochure?

A: No.

Q: Just the sketch?

A: Yes.

Q: Did it have the description underneath it?

A: No.

Q: You didn’t think that was the man?

A: I didn’t think it looked like him.

Q: Now, you have testified in Court about this incident on two different occasions before this, haven’t you?

A: Yes.

Q: And those times Mr. Bundy was present, wasn’t he?

A: Yes.

Q: I was present?

A: Yes.

Q: Mr. Yocom?

A: Yes.

Q: And you described the incident both those times, didn’t you?

A: Yes.

Q: Did you cry during those times?

A: No.

Q: Is it the crowd here that is making you nervous?

A: Yes.

Q: And you noticed the blood on this coat you say, that night?

A: Yes.

Q: Now, the policemen looked at the coat that night. Didn’t they look to see if there was any blood on it?

A: No.

Q: Didn’t they discuss whether or not there was any blood on you?

A: No. They asked me if I was hurt. I said no.

Q: Do you want to describe the badge the man showed you again?

A: I said it was silver and oval shaped.

Q: Do you recall being asked that at the preliminary hearing?

A: Yes.

Q: Do you know what you said there?

A: Probably that it was silver or gold.

MR. O’CONNELL: I’d ask that her testimony in that regard, in fact, her testimony generally, be published at this time, of the preliminary hearing.

THE COURT: Any objection?

MR. YOCOM: No objection.

THE COURT: The testimony of the witness at the preliminary hearing will be published.

Q: I will just read it, then. Line 5 of page 24:

“Question: Could you describe the badge and where you got it from?”

“Answer: It was silver and blue, or else gold and blue. And it wasn’t a star. It was kind of round, kind of oval-shaped.”

Do you have any explanation for why you said it was blue and silver or blue and gold then?

A: Because it had a symbol on it or writing or something, but I couldn’t see what it was.

Q: Well, you were asked by the police officers on the night this occurred what color it was, weren’t you?

A: Yes.

Q: And that time you said it was all silver or all gold, didn’t you?

A: Did I?

Q: Well, did you?

A: I can’t—

Q: You don’t remember?

A: No.

Q: Was it blue? Did it have blue on it?

A: I think it had a little blue on it, whatever was on it, the symbol or the writing.

Q: Now, when the police officers were questioning you about this, they showed you their badge, didn’t they?

A: Yes.

Q: And you said it was different?

A: Yes.

Q: And how did you tell them it was different?

A: Their badges were bigger.

Q: And what else?

A: Theirs weren’t the same shape.

Q: And what else?

A: I don’t know.

Q: You told them that the badge the man used didn’t have any blue on it, didn’t you, that the badge that the man showed you was like theirs, only it was half as big, and the badge the kidnapper had didn’t have any blue on it like the Murray Police officers, right?

A: Theirs had a lot of blue on it.

Q: That’s right, and that’s what you were describing when you described it at the preliminary hearing, wasn’t it?

A: No.

Q: Well, do you think you told the police officers on November 8th that the badge that the man had had blue on it?

A: I don’t remember.

Q: Now, the wallet the man had the badge in was a wallet like mine, wasn’t it?

A: Similar.

Q: I mean, what I meant was it folds so that the money folds in half?

A: Yes.

Q: Rather than folding it so the money stays straight?

A: Yes.

Q: And the badge was attached to it somehow so that he flipped it open like this, and you could see the badge, right?

A: Yes.

Q: Now, going to the car that was used on the night of November 8th that you took a ride in, what color was it?

A: I said it was a light beige, white.

Q: You said it was a light beige. Could it have been blue?

A: I could have said it was.

Q: I am asking you now, could it have been blue?

A: No.

But you have described it, in fact, on November 8th you described it as a light blue car, didn’t you?

A: I might have.

Q: When did you decide that it was beige? When Jerry Thompson showed you those photos?

A: No.

Q: When?

A: I was really shook up that night. There’s a lot of things I didn’t exactly tell them.

Q: Well, they asked you what color the car was several times, didn’t they?

A: And later on I said it could have been a white or beige, too.

Q: But now you have decided it couldn’t be blue. Why is that?

A: I don’t understand.

Q: Well, on the night it happened, you said that it was light blue or white. Now you say it couldn’t have been blue. What made you come to that conclusion that it couldn’t be blue now when on November 8th you were saying it was light blue.

A: Or beige or white.

Q: All right. When did you eliminate light blue as a possibility? Do you know?

A: No.

Q: Today you testified that when you were walking with this man over to the laundromat, you were walking on his left side. Is that your testimony now?

A: Over to the laundromat?

Q: Yes.

A: No.

Q: Where were you walking?

A: I was walking on his left side outside of the mall, not over to the laundromat.

Q: Where were you walking in relation to him when you were walking over to the laundromat?

A: I don’t remember.

Q: You have testified previously that you were walking a few feet behind him?

A: Yes.

Q: Now, when you were at the laundromat, you said that you were quite suspicious of him, he was a stranger. You indicated to Mr. Yocom that—I don’t know whether you said it or he was just implying it—that you were at that point concerned. Is that true?

A: Yes.

Q: Why did you go?

A: Because he showed me a badge. I thought it was all right.

Q: I see. You also said that you didn’t have to go, right?

A: Right.

Q: It was entirely up to you?

A: Yes.

Q: And so at that point you were reassured that it really was a policeman, or you wouldn’t have gone, right?

A: Yes.

Q: I mean, you wouldn’t have gotten into some strange man’s car and driven off with him if you didn’t think he was a policeman, would you?

A: No.

Q: Did he smell of alcohol?

A: Yes.

Q: Now, you said you saw some rust spots on the car. Where did you see the rust spots?

A: On the very front of it.

Q: Anywhere else?

A: On the side, maybe.

Q: Pardon?

A: On the side.

Q: Where on the side?

A: On the door.

Painted over rust spots on the VW door, October 1975. Courtesy Bountiful PD.

Q: On the door? Do you remember Mr. Yocom at the preliminary hearing asking you the same questions?

Line 10, page 27:

“Question: Now, when you say there were spots on the vehicle, rust spots; where were they located on the vehicle itself, Carol?”

“Answer: On the front, on the hood that opens up.”

“Question: Any other place?”

“Answer: No.”

Do you know why you said that?

A: No.

Q: Have you been looking at these photos of Mr. Bundy’s car recently?

A: No.

Q: Other than in court, have you ever looked at them?

A: No.

Q: Did Mr. Thompson show them to you? Other than Mr. Thompson showing them to you while you were on the witness stand, have you ever looked at the photos of the car with Jerry Thompson?

A: No.

Q: Did you tell Murray Police officers on November 8th about seeing rust on a door?

A: No. I don’t remember.

Q: They questioned you quite thoroughly about that automobile, didn’t they?

A: I don’t remember.

Q: Well, they wanted to know if there was anything unusual about that car, didn’t they?

A: Yes.

Q: And you didn’t tell them about seeing any—in fact, you told them that you couldn’t remember any particular dents or rust spots, didn’t you?

A: I don’t remember.

Q: Do you have a memory, though, of that car not having a license plate on?

A: That night I told them, I was very shook up.

Q: But no license plate would have been something unusual, wouldn’t it?

A: Yes.

Q: More unusual than rust spots on the hood, isn’t it?

A: No.

Q: Don’t practically all old Volkswagens have rusty spots in the front on the hood?

A: I don’t know. Do they?

Q: Now, when did you notice this rip in the upholstery of the car? When you climbed into the car the first time?

A: When we were walking toward the car; when I climbed in the car.

Q: You saw the rip. Now, you did tell the police about that rip, didn’t you?

A: Yes.

Q: What color was the upholstery?

A: I don’t remember.

Q: Did you notice anything else about the interior other than the fact that it had seat belts and it had a rip in the back seat?

A: There was stuff on the floor of the passenger’s side.

Q: Do you have any idea how many light-colored Volkswagen bugs there are with ripped seats?

A: No.

Q: There is quite a few, aren’t there?

A: Probably.

Q: In fact, most of them have ripped seats, don’t they?

A: Most old cars, very old ones.

Q: Particularly Volkswagens?

A: Yes.

Carol DaRonch

Carol DaRonch, circa 1970s. Courtesy Carol DaRonch/Amazon Studios.

Q: You already testified you are 5’7, right?

A: Yes.

Q: How much do you weigh?

A: 108.

Q: And that was roughly your size on November 8th?

A: Yes.

Q: Do you participate in any sports?

A: No.

Q: Ever had any self-defense training?

A: Once.

Q: Was that training, or someone just telling you about it?

A: Someone just telling me about it.

Q: Do you recall how you managed to get away from that man on November 8th?

A: No.

Q: It is your testimony now he was trying to hit you with that iron bar?

A: Yes.

Q: How did you keep him from doing it?

A: I don’t know.

Q: Remember talking to the police officer, I believe it was Joel Riet, about whether or not he was really trying to hurt you on November 8th, 1974?

A: No.

Q: Didn’t you have a little discussion with him where you both decided that he probably wasn’t since he was so much bigger than you were?

A: No.

Q: How tall am I? Do you want to stand up?

A: I have heels on.

Q: What were you wearing that night?

A: Loafers.

Q: Well, can you give a guess how tall I am?

A: No.

Q: Do you have any idea how much I weigh?

A: No.

Q: It is your testimony now that you did scratch this man, is that right?

A: Because my fingernails were all broken.

Q: Going to page 38 of the preliminary hearing, do you recall Mr. Yocom asking this question of you:

“Do you recall ever scratching him with your fingernails?”

And your answer: “No.”

Do you have an explanation for that?

A: No.

Q: In fact, the officers on November 8th asked you if you remembered if you hurt the man in any way, and you told them no too, didn’t you?

A: I don’t remember.

Q: Okay. Let’s go to these green pants. Can you describe them further than that?

A: They were straight legs.

Q: They didn’t have any flare to them?

A: Right.

Q: Did they have a cuff on them?

A: I don’t remember.

Q: Did you tell the police that they did not have a cuff on?

A: Yes.

Q: What kind of jacket?

A: A dress jacket.

Q: Did you tell the police that he had a dress jacket on?

A: I don’t remember.

Q: Or did you tell them you couldn’t remember the jacket?

A: I said it was a jacket, though.

Q: You said it was a jacket. Was it Mr. Yocom who asked you if it was a suit jacket at the preliminary hearing, and you first said that it was a suit jacket, isn’t that true?

A: But it was.

Q: What color was it?

A: I don’t remember.

Q: What kind of shirt did he have on?

A: I don’t remember.

Q: Was he wearing a tie?

A: No.

Q: Now, on the night of November 8th, you couldn’t answer any of these questions, you said you didn’t remember; right?

A: Right.

Q: And you say he was wearing a mustache?

A: Yes.

Q: Shortly after the incident you told Joel Riet that you thought it over and decided the man didn’t have a mustache, didn’t you?

A: Yes.

Q: And sometime later you decided he did, right?

A: Yes.

Q: When did you make that decision?

A: Right after I decided that he didn’t have one.

Q: Did you tell Officer Riet right then that you had changed your mind again that he had a mustache?

A: I don’t remember.

Q: Taking a photo out of what was at the earlier motion Defendant’s Exhibit 13, and it’s a mug shot with the number 63660, 11-1-73, Sheriff’s Office, Salt Lake County. Wasn’t it in regard to looking at this photo that you told Mr. Riet that you didn’t think the man had a mustache?

A: I don’t remember.

Q: Didn’t you say that this looks just like the man only he wasn’t wearing a mustache?

A: I don’t remember.

Q: Do you remember seeing this photo before?

A: No.

Q: You picked out several photos at different times as looking like the man—showing you again from Defendant’s Exhibit 13, which is an envelope full of photographs—and that number, Exhibit 13, is the one from the earlier motion, your Honor, rather than this—showing you Driver’s License A 664002, you said that that looked generally like the man, didn’t you, at one time?

A: The hair.

Q: The hair looked like that?

A: Sort of.

Q: If that what you mean by “greased”? Or was it shiny like that?

A: Yes.

Q: You described on the night of November 8th the man’s hair as being dark brown and black, did you not?

A: Yes.

Q: You just don’t recall all the photos that you picked out that you said looked like the man?

A: Not looked like, just things about them, the way they had their hair cut or their mustache or—

Q: Well, there was one photo that Bountiful showed you that you made an identification of and said it looked quite a bit like the man, and got him in quite a bit of trouble, didn’t you?

A: I don’t know. Did I?

Q: Well, didn’t you say it looked like him?

A: I don’t know what picture you’re talking about.

MR. O’CONNELL: Well, the problem is, I can’t find it. It was one of the photos we used in the last hearing. It was in one of those folders, your Honor, and it’s not there now. Whether it fell out or what.

Q: Now, as far as viewing photographs went, you viewed an awful lot during the first month after this incident, and then quite a period of time went by before they showed you photos again, is that true?

A: Yes.

Q: How many times before the lineup did you see Mr. Bundy’s photo?

A: Twice.

Q: You have testified previously that you saw it three or four times?

A: I might have.

Q: Were you mistaken then?

A: Yes.

Q: And since the lineup, you have seen it some more times, haven’t you? Well, you have seen it in court, for example, haven’t you?

A: Yes.

Q: And you have been reading newspaper stories about this case, haven’t you?

A: No.

Q: You haven’t?

A: No.

Q: You’ve testified at the preliminary hearing you have been reading the Deseret News stories about this case?

A: But not recently.

Q: But you were—between the lineup and the preliminary hearing you were reading the stories in the paper, though?

A: Some.

Q: And they would have had his picture in the paper, wouldn’t they?

A: One.

Q: Just had it in once?

A: I only remember seeing it once.

Q: Now, you don’t remember when Mr. Thompson showed you his picture the first time, right?

A: No.

Q: Well, do you remember him coming to your place of employment on September 1st of 1975 with the pictures of the automobile?

A: Yes.

Q: And they were just ordinary Polaroid size photos at that time, weren’t they, or were they big ones like this?

A: I don’t know.

Q: Referring to State’s Exhibits 20 and 21?

A: I don’t remember if they were big or small.

MR. O’CONNELL: Your Honor, if I may straighten up the record, the photo which I previously identified as coming from Defendant’s Exhibit 13 at the previous hearing and as having number 663660: I said Sheriff, but that is Salt Lake City Police Department and is now Defendant’s Exhibit 25; is that correct Mr. Yocom?

MR. YOCOM: That’s correct.

MR. O’CONNELL: And that’s the photograph I believe you said that you didn’t recall much about, is that correct?

MISS DARONCH: Yes.

MR. O’CONNELL: All right. I will move—I guess she didn’t identify it, so I can’t. I will have to wait on that.

Q: Defendant’s Proposed Exhibit 26 is the photo you said looks something like the man, particularly the hair?

A: Yes.

Q: All right. And you picked that out for Officer Riet? Do you know?

A: I don’t know.

Q: Now, when Officer Thompson showed you the photos of the car—you previously identified State’s Exhibits 20 and 21—he showed you four photos at that time, didn’t he?

A: Yes.

Q: And you told him that that was the car that had been used in the kidnapping, didn’t you?

A: I said it looked a lot like it.

Q: You said, “That’s the car,” right?

A: I might have.

Q: How could you tell from looking at these photos?

A: The rip’s identical to what I saw.

Q: What else?

A: It didn’t have a license plate.

Q: Now, will you please look at Defendant’s Exhibit 29. Do you see the license plate in that photo?

A: No.

Q: Can you see it in Exhibits 28, 20, or 21?

A: No.

Q: So you didn’t recognize that car and the photos because it didn’t have a license plate on it, did you?

A: I don’t know if I said that, even.

Q: Well, you just said it two minutes ago, didn’t you?

A: No. You asked me if that’s what I said.

MR. O’CONNELL: Well, can you go back and read the record, Mrs. Price?

(The record was read)

Q: And we went through the same thing at the preliminary hearing, did we not?

A: Yes.

Q: Where you said the way you told that the car in the photos was the car that you saw November 8th was because it didn’t have a license plate? You said that at the preliminary hearing too, didn’t you? Do you recall?

A: No.

Q: All right. On page 65:

“Question: Now, so you had, I take it, then looked at the car in pictures and said ‘That’s the car’; is that right?”

“Answer: Yes.”

“Question: And how could you tell it was the car?”

“Answer: It didn’t have a license plate on the front, and it was real beat up, the back seat was ripped exactly—”

“Question: But it didn’t have a license plate on the front and because the back seat was torn?”

“Answer: Yes.”

Q: Really, what you are recalling, then, was not the photos but the car you saw up on the Avenues with Officer Collard, is that right?

Ted Bundy Volkswagen VW 1975

The Volkswagen as viewed by Carol DaRonch, September 1975. Courtesy Bountiful PD

A: No.

Q: When did you ever see a car without a license plate other than your statement that you saw it on November 8th, 1974?

A: Just on November 8th.

Q: Okay. So how did you tell that these pictures were the car on November 8th, just because of the rip?

A: Yes.

Q: And the rip only appears in State’s Exhibit 20 and Defendant’s Exhibit 28, right?

A: Right.

Q: In fact, they can be any Volkswagen, couldn’t they?

A: Yes.

Q: Are you telling us that you can look at State’s Exhibit 20 and say that that is the exact same tear that you saw when you climbed into a car on whatever that street was in Murray in November of 1974? You can say that?

A: No. I said it looks a lot like it.

Q: Now, just after you looked at these car photos for Jerry Thompson, he gave you a pack of photos and asked you to look through them, didn’t he?

A: Yes.

Q: And that was the time that you picked out a photo and put it in your lap and went through the rest of the photos, then you gave the photos back to Jerry Thompson and said “He’s not in there,” didn’t you?

A: Did I?

Q: You don’t know?

A: I don’t remember.

Q: And didn’t he say, “Well, what about that photo,” referring to Mr. Bundy’s photo that was in your lap? And it was at that time you said, “I don’t know, I guess it looks more like him—or it looks closer to him than any of the other photos”; isn’t that the way that particular selection went?

A: I don’t remember.

Q: You don’t remember. Well, you remembered at the preliminary hearing, didn’t you? That was a little closer to the incident, wasn’t it? Closer to the time he showed you the photos at the preliminary hearing, wasn’t it?

A: Yes, it was.

Q: Okay. Publishing preliminary hearing, page 79, starting, I guess, at the bottom of the page, line 24:

“BY MR. O’CONNELL:

“Question: And that was when you looked through and said—exactly what happened on that occasion? Was it that you gave them back and that you had took Mr. Bundy’s photograph out from the pack and then you gave the pack back and said there wasn’t anybody there of the person, and they asked, well, why did you take that one out, and you said, ‘Well, that one looks more like him than any other picture.’ Isn’t that how it happened?”

“Answer: Yes.”

“Question: In fact, your first statement was that the man’s picture—that the man who had done it wasn’t in there, but that Mr. Bundy was closer than other people?”

“Answer: Yes.”

I don’t know whether I’m that inarticulate or whether the reporter got it wrong.

Q: Do you remember when the next time was that you saw Mr. Bundy’s photo?

A: I think it was two weeks later.

Q: Wasn’t it on September 4th when the officers from Bountiful came up to get you to go look at a car?

A: No. I don’t think it was that same day.

Q: You don’t think it was that soon after?

A: No, that same day. I don’t remember exactly what day it was.

Q: It was sometime after Officer Thompson had shown you the first pack, right?

A: Yes.

Q: You think it was a couple weeks?

A: I think.

Q: It could have been, say, three or four days?

A: No.

Q: Well, it was on a day that they came up to take you to go see if you could see the car, right?

A: No.

Q: It wasn’t?

A: It might have been.

Q: Well, in fact, you went through the pack of pictures they showed you once, and then you went through it again, and you picked out Mr. Bundy’s photo, and you said, “I think that may be the man,” or something to that effect, didn’t you?”

A: I don’t remember.

Q: Well, let’s put it this way: You never made a positive identification of a photograph, did you?

A: Right.

Q: That’s correct. Well, do you recall the Bountiful officers coming on several occasions to try to take you to see the car itself?

A: Yes.

Q: There were a couple of attempts that weren’t successful, then on September 8th Sgt. Collard took you up and showed you a car on the Avenues, didn’t he?

A: Yes.

Q: Did that car have a license plate on it?

A: No.

Q: And that’s when you remembered, isn’t it, when you were talking about how you identified the photograph because it didn’t have a license plate?

A: I was thinking of the car that night.

Q: Well, obviously, you were thinking of the car that night, because you were trying to see if the car in the photo or the car in the street matched it. But when I asked you how you could tell on two different occasions in two different court proceedings, you said it was because the car and the picture didn’t have the license plate on it. Now, my question was: Were you just confusing the car that you saw in the pictures with the car you saw on the street? You were just wrong, is that it?

A: I don’t know.

Q: Did you tell Officer Collard that the car you saw up on the Avenues was the car you were kidnapped in?

A: I might have, because it didn’t have a license plate. But it looked completely different.

Q: Well, at the preliminary hearing you said you didn’t identify it, right?

A: (No answer).

Q: What else about it made you think it was the car, other than it didn’t have a license plate? It looked completely different, but you identified it anyway, isn’t that true?

A: Because it was supposed to be the car in the pictures.

Q: That’s right, and that’s why you identified it, because it was supposed to be the car?

A: Because it didn’t have a license plate, and I knew it had been changed.

Q: That was your testimony also at the preliminary hearing, was the reason that you identified it was because it was supposed to be the car that was in the picture, and you knew the officers weren’t taking you up to see the wrong car, right?

A: Right.

Q: You pretty well identify what the law enforcement officers want you identify, don’t you?

A: No.

Q: You did at that time, didn’t you?

A: No.

Q: Let’s go to another time. Showing you Defendant’s Exhibit 28. Now, can you identify that? Have you seen that photograph before?

A: Yes.

Q: And at the preliminary hearing, didn’t you on two occasions say—identify that as a picture of the rip in the car that you saw on November 8th, 1974?

A: Yes.

Q: And then I pointed out to you that—or asked you whether or not you had ever seen the car from the back on November 8th, 1974, right?

A: Right.

Q: So how did you identify it at that time?

A: By the flap part that was sticking down.

Q: What flap part? The sponge rubber?

A: Yes.

Q: All right. This is State’s Exhibit 20. This is the way it looked from the front?

A: I could see this part from standing on the side of the car, not directly from the back.

Q: From standing on the side? You get a better shot—this picture is taken from the side, isn’t it?

A: Yes.

Q: In fact, it’s taken from the rear quarter window, isn’t it?

A: Yes.

Q: Okay. Now, show me in this picture what you—you got a better view, more of a view to the back on November 8th than this picture shows?

A: No.

Q: In fact, you were more from the front, weren’t you?

A: Yes.

Q: All right. Now, show me in this picture what there is that you saw that you could remember at the preliminary hearing so that you could identify that rip as the one you saw?

A: Just this top portion.

Q: Well, you can’t see this part, can you, from the front, or even from the side?

A: But it is curving over here.

Q: Well, don’t all Volkswagens curve over?

A: I don’t know. Do they?

Q: Well, you identified that just because Mr. Yocom handed it to you and asked you if you could identify it, didn’t you?

A: And you were pushing it in my face.

Q: Well, let’s go back to when Mr. Yocom was pushing it in your face, young lady.

MR. YOCOM: Your Honor, I think counsel ought to be cautioned—

THE COURT: All right, no argumentation with the witness. On the other hand, I want the witness to just answer the questions.

MR. O’CONNELL: Page 116, this is Mr. Yocom:

“Question: With Exhibit B, do you recognize that photograph?”

“Answer: Yes.”

“Question: And what is that?”

“Answer: It’s the ripped part of the top of the back seat.”

“Question: And in what way, if any, does that resemble the vehicle you were in on November 8, 1974?”

“Answer: It had a rip just like this one.”

BY MR. O’CONNELL:

“Question: I’m showing you State’s Exhibit B. Looking at that, you can say that that’s the ripped seat you saw on November 8, 1974?”

“Answer: Yes.”

“Question: How can you tell?”

“Answer: It just looks like it.”

“Question: Well, do you remember any particular little dents or tears or pieces hanging out or anything like that?”

“Answer: Just the way it’s ripped.”

“Question: Did you ever look at that car on November 8th from the back?”

“Answer: No.”

Have you ever viewed any other Volkswagen automobile, other than the one with Officer Collard up on the Avenues, with a police officer to see if it was the car used on the night?

A: No.

Q: You never have?

A: No.

Q: Didn’t you view one with Officer Paul Forbes shortly after the incident?

A: Yes.

Q: You decided it wasn’t the car?

A: Yes.

Q: Why? What was different about it, do you remember?

A: The rip in the back seat wasn’t the same.

Q: Anything else?

A: I don’t remember.

Q: Remember being taken to the University of Utah to see if you could identify somebody?

A: Yes.

Q: When did you go, do you recall?

A: No.

Q: Well, roughly when, say, in relation to being shown those pictures or the lineup or anything?

A: It was before the lineup.

Q: It was the day before the lineup, wasn’t it?

A: Was it?

Q: I don’t know.

A: I don’t know.

Q: I’m asking you.

A: I don’t know, either.

Q: Do you recall where you went up there?

A: I don’t know what building it was, exactly.

Q: Was it the law school?

A: I’m not familiar with up there.

Q: Well, who all was up there with you?

A: I don’t know their names.

Q: There were a number of police officers and a number of county attorneys, weren’t there?

A: Not a whole lot.

Q: And you hung around a little while with Jerry Thompson inside the building and didn’t see anyone, right?

A: Right.

Q: And Officer Thompson told you the man wasn’t there, right?

A: Yes.

Q: What man did you think he was talking about?

A: I don’t know. He never told me his name.

Q: You knew it was the man whose pictures you had picked and whose car you picked, right?

A: I didn’t know it was the man in the pictures I picked. They never told me anything about anything.

Q: Well, I know, but you gathered it, didn’t you? Didn’t you gather that before the lineup?

A: Well, yes.

Q: All right. Before the lineup, you knew that the man you were looking to see if you could identify was a law student, and that he had a beige Volkswagen, didn’t you.

A: I didn’t know if he was a law student.

Q: Well, you testified previously that you knew that he was a law student and had a beige Volkswagen, didn’t you?

A: (No answer.)

Q: You associated the pictures of the man you had picked with the automobile, hadn’t you?

A: Yes.

Q: And you associated the trip up to the law school or up to the building at the University with the man you had picked, whose photos you had tentatively picked, hadn’t you?

A: Yes.

Q: You knew that these policemen were closing in on a hot suspect, didn’t you?

A: I guess.

Q: Well, weren’t they acting that way, coming and seeing you every couple days and driving you around town and having officers out following somebody around so that you could try to find out where he was to look at him; do you recall all that?

A: Yes.

Q: It was a pretty extensive activity there during the first—or, in fact, all through September, wasn’t it? With Bountiful and with the County Sheriffs?

A: I really don’t know what they were doing.

Q: You knew they were doing something, didn’t you?

A: Yes.

Q: In fact, you were quite frightened at the lineup, weren’t you?

A: Yes.

Q: Because you were pretty certain that the man who kidnapped you was going to go in that lineup and he might see you, weren’t you?

A: No.

Q: Now, in that lineup you could have recognized Mr. Bundy from seeing his pictures even if you hadn’t seen him before, couldn’t you?

A: Yes.

Q: I mean, nobody else in that lineup looked like his picture, did it?

A: No.

Q: Now, do you have separate images in your mind of what the man looked like on November 8, 1974, and what each of the pictures of Mr. Bundy looked like and what Mr. Bundy looked like at the lineup and what he looks like today? Can you flick through your mind and have those images come out?

A: Yes.

Q: Have you ever seen Mr. Bundy in a mustache?

A: I don’t remember.

Q: Have you ever seen his picture in a mustache or a beard?

A: I don’t remember.

Q: Showing you what has been marked Defendant’s Exhibit 27, referring to Driver’s License C 124012, have you ever seen that before?

A: Yes.

Q: Did you pick that picture out and say that that looked a lot like him–the man that abducted you—except for the hair?

A: Yes.

Q: And you said that the officer was showing you these pictures, in fact, I believe he showed you 27 and 27-A at the same time, he said, “Look through these and pick out the hair that looks the most like him,” and you picked Drivers License C 90747, didn’t you?

A: Yes.

Q: He had that kind of hair, you said?

A: Sort of.

MR. O’CONNELL: I will move the introduction of Defendant’s Exhibit 31 as being a transcript of her statement to the police officers, to Officer Joel Riet on November 8, 1974.

MR. YOCOM: No objection.

THE COURT: Exhibit 31 is received.

Q: Showing you a group of photographs 30-A through S, I will ask, you to look through there and see if any of those are photos of ripped back seats, and see if any of those are like the rip that you saw on November 8th, or for that matter, the rip you saw in Mr. Bundy’s car?

A: I really can’t see it too good in some of these pictures.

Q: Do you know if it’s in there?

A: No.

MR. O’CONNELL: That’s all.

MR. YOCOM: You mean that’s all the questions?

MR. O’CONNELL: Yes. That’s all the questions.

REDIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. YOCOM:

Q: Carol, at any time when you observed photographs shown to you by police officers, did any of them ever—let me rephrase that—what did they tell you each time you were shown photographs?

A: Just to look through them, if I saw anyone that reminded me of the man, to pick it out and show them what reminded me about it; or if I saw the man, to pick it out, or if l didn’t see anything that I liked, I didn’t have to pick out anything.

Q: And was that all that was ever said to you at any time?

A: Yes.

Q: Did anyone ever suggest to you that the suspect’s picture, or a suspect’s picture, was contained in those photographs?

A: No.

Q: Did you know on September 1st when Officer Thompson showed you a group of photographs that there would be a suspect in those photographs?

A: No.

Q: Did you know on the 4th day of September when Officer Beal from Bountiful showed you a group of photographs whether or not the man would be in those photographs?

A: No.

Q: Did you, when you went to the lineup, know that the man that assaulted you—kidnapped you on November 8th—was going to be there?

A: No.

Q: Did anyone tell you he was going to be there?

A: No.

Q: Did you know his name?

A: No.

Q: Did you know his occupation?

A: No.

Q: Did you know anything about Theodore Bundy on October 2nd at the lineup?

A: I don’t think so.

Q: Counsel asked you on cross-examination if you could have identified Mr. Bundy at the lineup without seeing his picture.

MR. O’CONNELL: No. Excuse me. I will call for the record on that. I asked her if—she might object to this even more—I asked her if she could have identified him just from his pictures without having seen him on November 8th, 1974. She said she could have.

THE COURT: Yes. That was the testimony.

MR. YOCOM: Sorry. I must have written it down wrong.

MISS DARONCH: I thought he said the other way too.

Q: What question did you think you were asked?

A: If—what you thought. I mean, I couldn’t from the picture, is what I mean, for sure.

Q: You couldn’t tell if he was the man strictly from the pictures?

A: Yes.

Q: When you saw him in the lineup, could you tell?

A: Yes.

Q: Did you associate the lineup at all with seeing pictures?

A: No.

Q: Seeing Mr. Bundy at the lineup when he first walked into the lineup room, whatdid you associate that with, Carol?

A: When he first walked in was the way he walked on that night.

Q: What night?

A: November 8th.

Q: Did you know immediately?

A: Yes.

Q: And you are positive today?

A: Yes.

MR. YOCOM: No further questions.

RECROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR. O’CONNELL:

Q: Well as to being able to pick him out just from the pictures, we. have gone through that twice, haven’t we? Once at preliminary hearing and once this afternoon? And both times, you said that you could pi.ck him out even if you hadn’t seen him, you could pick him out—and I would follow it up with the question, “Well, nobody else in the lineup looked like his pictures?” And both times, both this afternoon and at the preliminary hearing, you agreed. Is that right?

A: I thought you said the other way around.

Q: Both times you thought—

A: I don’t remember the first time.

Q: Or did you and Mr. Yocom discuss that with regard to the preliminary hearing testimony, is maybe why you made that mistake at preliminary hearing?

A: No.

Q: Now you are saying that you didn’t think the man who kidnapped you was in the lineup, is that right? You didn’t know that he was?

A: No.

Q: You didn’t even suspect that he was, strongly?

A: Yes.

Q: That’s why you testified that you were afraid, wasn’t it? You were worried that he’d see you?

A: I don’t remember.

Q: You said that you associated the man with the car and the pictures and the going to the Law school, and you testified to that two or three times, haven’t you? Haven’t you?

A: (No answer.)

Q: Well, yes or no?

A: Will you say that again?

Q: Haven’t you on two or three times now testified that you associated the man in the lineup, prior to the lineup, going in the lineup, with the pictures, with the viewing of the car, and with the law school; that you knew that the man that you were looking for was a law student and had a tan car? Haven’t you testified that that’s true several times?

A: Yes.

Q: And it is true, isn’t it?

A: Yes.

MR. O’CONNELL: That’s all.

MR. YOCOM: No further questions.

THE COURT: All right. Miss DaRonch, you may step down.

Roni the Raccoon: Adventures around Lake Placid (Part Two), July 10-14, 2026.

Introduction: For Christmas 2025 my SIL gifted my husband an incredibly clever present of an eight-inch-tall stuffed raccoon named ‘Roni’ that also happened to be the Olympics mascot for the 1980 Lake Placid Winter Olympics (we’re a big Adirondacks family). About a month later I started taking a creative writing class at GCC (our local community college), which is a subject that I always struggled with because with my true crime articles, everything is very structured, and black and white, and because of this I don’t often have to think outside the box. So… one night in early March, I started thinking about something I could do around our upcoming trip to Lake Placid (since most of my vacations revolve around some sort of writing project) and ‘the Adventures of Roni the Raccoon’ was born. I had a lot of fun with the first article, and it was great having my husband involved with something: he’s gone to some local true crime related places with me (think, Air BnB’s) but he never really tagged along to take pictures or investigate. It was fun doing something together. And going back to the area in the summer gave us a totally different perspective, as well as new things to explore (both activity and food-wise).

Background/History: Lake Placid is a village in Essex County, New York that is located near the southern end of the actual Lake Placid; it is inside the Adirondack Mountains and is close to the center of North Elba, and its population in the 2020 census was 2,205. Also in 2020, the average resident was 45.8 years old, 13.7% of its people were under the age of 18, and 19.7% were 65 years or older. According to the United States Census Bureau, the village is made up of a total area of 1.5 square miles, of which 1.4 square miles is land and 0.15 square miles (or 10.79%) is water. In the village, 33% of housing units are classified as ‘seasonally vacant,’ meaning they are strictly used only for ‘vacation purposes’ and are owned as second homes, vacation rentals (Air BnB/Vrbo), or seasonal properties.

According to the Köppen classification system, Lake Placid has a warm-summer, humid continental climate (or Dfb), which are warm-summer humid continental climates that feature four distinct seasons; they are characterized by long, cold winters and mild, cool summers and there is consistent precipitation all year with no dry season and the average temperatures stays below 71.6° F in the warmest month. The three-letter breakdown for this climate zone means the following: D (Continental): The region experiences significant seasonal temperature differences, featuring freezing, snowy winters. The ‘f’ stands for ‘Fully humid,’ meaning there is no significant dry season, and precipitation is relatively even throughout the year., and lastly ‘b’ refers to ‘Warm Summer,’ meaning the summer months are warm but not hot.

According to the AW Kuchler US potential natural vegetation types, Lake Placid has a dominant vegetation type of Northern Hardwoods/Spruce (108) (using the USDA Forest Service classification system) and has a dominant vegetation form of Northern Hardwoods (23). The plant hardiness zone is 4a, meaning it is a geographic region where the average annual lowest winter temperature drops to between -30°F and -25°F and it experiences long, very cold winters and a short growing season, therefore plants that grow here must be extremely cold-hardy to survive the frigid temperatures.

The actual body of water (Lake Placid itself) consists of approximately 2,170 acres and averages about fifty feet deep; it has an elevation of 1,858 feet, is around ~4 miles long/1.5 miles wide, and has a maximum depth of 151 feet. It fills a natural geologic basin, and drains the McKenzie Mountains to the west, Whiteface Mountain to the north and Mount Whitney to the east and is divided into two lobes (East Lake and West Lake) by a peninsula at the lake’s south end. It also contains three islands: Buck, Moose and Hawk; Sunset and Shelter Straits separate the cape from Buck Island and Buck from Moose.

The village of Lake Placid developed an iron ore mining operation, and by 1840, the population of ‘North Elba’ consisted of a mere six families and was located four miles southeast of the where it is today. In 1845, the philanthropist and abolitionist Gerrit Smith arrived in the area and bought a great deal of land around the village and granted large tracts to former slaves (which is a specific, continuous area of land that serves as a distinct legal unit), and helped reformed the laws related to land ownership.

John Brown heard about Smith’s reforms and in May 1849 he left his anti-slavery activities in Kansas and bought 244 acres of land in North Elba (which he bought for a whopping $244), a parcel that later became known as the ‘Freed Slave Utopian Experiment,’ Timbuctoo. Brown was a radical abolitionist who believed that armed insurrection was the only way to overthrow slavery in the US, and unlike most anti-slavery activists of his time who advocated for peaceful political reform, he often resorted to extreme violence and guerrilla warfare to get his point across. When he was executed in 1859 following the Harpers Ferry Raid, Browne’s wife buried him at their Lake Placid home, and today you can pay a visit to ‘the John Brown Farm State Historic Site’ in North Elba (which is now a National Historic Landmark). Also on the National Register in Lake Placid is the Mount Van Hoevenberg Olympic Bobsled Run, New York Central Railroad Adirondack Division Historic District, and US Post Office.

Winter Sports: Lake Placid’s deep entanglement with winter sports began with Melvil Dewey in the late 1800’s, who at the time was the director of the New York State Library (he also invented the Dewey Decimal Classification System). Dewey (along with his wife, Annie) designed what was then called the ‘Placid Park Club’ in 1895, which was a social and recreation club, which inspired the area to change its name to Lake Placid in 1900. Choosing to ignore his skeptics, Dewey brought in a large amount of sports equipment from Europe to the Lake Placid Club in the fall of 1904, so his business didn’t have to close the following winter; luckily, it worked out well for him and was a success. Along with his son (Godfrey), Dewey eventually started promoting winter sports in the area, and as a result an iconic winter resort was born. Interestingly enough, Lake Placid is one of only three places in the world to host the Winter Olympic Games twice, the other two being St. Moritz, Switzerland in 1928 and 1948 and Innsbruck, Austria in 1964 and 1976.

George White served as the first postmaster and town supervisor of the nearby settlement of Newman (now part of the Lake Placid area) starting in 1875, and he continued to serve in these leadership roles and as a businessman through the late 19th and early 20th centuries. He built the White Opera House in 1895, which still stands today on the banks of the Chubb River and at one time had seating for 500 people (today it is the home to Lisa G’s Restaurant). As the beautiful surroundings of Lake Placid became more known to people of nearby NYC, filmmakers including Harry Handworth started to use the village and its surroundings for shooting silent films around 1914; many movies, among them News Parade, Summer Bachelors, The Avalanche, and Out of the Snows, were shot in the area.

By 1921, Lake Placid boasted a ski jump, speed skating venue, and ski association and in 1929, Melvil’s son Godfrey was able to convince the International Olympic Committee that it had the best winter sports facilities in the United States. In 1932 Melvin Dewey secured the bid to host the third ever US Olympic Winter Games, and The Lake Placid Club was the headquarters for the International Olympic Committee for the 1932 and the 1980 Winter Olympics. It is also important to mention that The LPC did not allow Jews or Catholics, but there were other hotels in the area that did cater to them: especially around the time of World War Two, many cosmopolitan refugees from Hitler’s Germany and Austria spent their summers in Lake Placid. The original, historic Lake Placid Club ceased operations as a singular resort on March 30, 1980 right after it served as the headquarters for the IOC. While the original 9,600-acre resort grounds and its massive main buildings were later largely demolished or split up, the property lives on today through multiple active and separate entities (and a massive 45-hole golf course!).

Oddly enough, one Lake Placid wasn’t enough for Melvin Dewey and in 1925 he went to Lake Stearns, Florida and proposed to their local government that they change their name to his favorite place; for some reason they agreed, and in 1927 America’s second Lake Placid was officially established.

Jack Shea (who was a resident of the village at the time), became the first person to win two gold medals when he doubled in speed skating at the 1932 Winter Olympics. Lake Placid was also the site of the legendary ‘Miracle on Ice’ hockey game that took place on February 22, 1980, when Team USA (which was made up of young American college students) beat the heavily favored Soviet Union team, 4-3. It’s worth mentioning that the Soviets were all professional athletes who had won the previous four Olympic gold medals. Also during the 1980 Winter Olympics, American speed-skater Eric Heiden won five gold medals, which is a feat that has not been accomplished since.

Nicknamed ‘The Olympic Village, Lake Placid became known internationally for hosting the Winter Olympic games in both 1932 and 1980; it also hosted the 1972 and 2023 Winter World University Games as well as the 2000 Goodwill Winter Games. The Winter Empire State Games have also been held here every February since their inception in 1981, and The Lake Placid ice dance competition takes place annually in July or August in the 1980 Olympic Arena.  The Lake Placid Summit Classic Lacrosse Tournament is held every August (since 1990) and has roughly 250 teams that participate in it. The World University Games took place there on two occasions (1972 and 2023) and they also hosted the 1972 Winter Universiade, which was an international winter sports event for college students. Lake Placid was also home to the 2023 Winter World University Games and the 2000 Goodwill Winter Games.

The Happy Hour Theatre: located directly on Mirror Lake, The Happy Hour Theatre was the first movie house in Lake Placid and was in business from 1911 to 1928. The Adirondack Theatre Corporation bought it in the 1920’s (who also owned and operated the newer Palace Theatre, which opened in 1926) on the same street. Movies were also shown several times a week at the Lake Placid Club, and in 1969, The Harbor Theatre (which was at times referred to locally as ‘The Holiday Harbor Theatre’ due to its proximity to the Holiday Harbor marina area) opened on the shores of Lake Placid and showed movies until 1986. The Palace Theatre is still operating at its original vintage location on Main Street.

Golf: Lake Placid built its first golf course in 1898 with the opening of the links at The Whiteface Inn, which was one of the first ever created in the US; the area now boasts more golf courses than any other venue in the Adirondacks. The geographic features of the Adirondacks are considered reminiscent of the Scottish landscape, which is where the game originated. Mountain golf is played at high altitudes and features courses that have steep slopes, uneven lies, and scenic views; also the thin air means less resistance, so the golf ball travels much further than it does near sea level.

The sport boomed in area during the early 1900’s thanks to the Lake Placid Club, which expanded to include the Links Course in 1909 and Mountain Course the following year, which was designed by golf legends Seymour Dunn and Alister MacKenzie. As of July 2026 Lake Placid has three main golf locations offering a total of 81 holes: The Lake Placid Club, which is a massive 45-hole facility with the Links course (18 holes), Mountain course (18 holes), and Pristine short course (9 holes). There’s also The Whiteface Club & Resort, which features an 18-hole championship course designed by Walter Travis and The Craig Wood Golf Course, which is a scenic 18-hole public course owned by the Town of North Elba.

Ironman Triathlon: Since 1999 Lake Placid has been a site for the annual Ironman Lake Placid Triathlon (officially referred to as the Athletic Brewing IRONMAN Lake Placid), which is the second oldest Ironman competition in North America; is also one of ten official Ironman Triathlons held in the continental US. The Lake Placid Ironman is one of the sport’s most legendary and honest courses and it takes full advantage of the region’s historic Olympic infrastructure as well as the demanding terrain of the Adirondack Mountains.

The 2026 competition will take place on Sunday, July 19, 2026, and athletes will take on a total grueling distance of 140.6 miles that must be finished under a strict seventeen-hour timeframe. The swimming portion consists of a 2.4 mile long loop and is held in Mirror Lake; it is highly famous for its underwater cable (which lies around five to six feet deep), which athletes visually follow like a guideline to swim perfectly straight lines. The biking part is 112 miles long and is comprised of a difficult two-loop route throughout the Adirondack Park and features over 6,000 feet of total elevation gain; it includes sweeping, fast descents down into Keene and is followed by challenging, sustained climbs back up into the mountain towns. The last part is running a full marathon: 26.2 miles along a rolling double loop that winds through downtown Lake Placid, along the river, and right past the historic Lake Placid Club. The race finishes outside the iconic Olympic Speed Skating Oval, the legendary site of the 1932 and 1980 Winter Olympic Games.

Skiing: Lake Placid is well known among winter-sports enthusiasts for its skiing, both Alpine and Nordic. Alpine skiing (which is also known as downhill skiing) emphasizes speed and adrenaline and uses gravity and ski lifts at resorts to ride down steep mountains; skis are shorter and wider and have ‘locked-in heels’ for control, and boots are stiff. Nordic skiing on the other hand (which is also referred to as cross-country skiing), relies on human power and endurance to travel across flat or rolling terrain. Skis are long and narrow, and bindings only attach at the toe, which leaves the heel free to lift for a natural walking or gliding motion.\

I’m not going to go too in depth about Whiteface (as I covered it fairly in-depth for my March article), but it is 4,867 feet tall and located in nearby Wilmington; it is around thirteen miles away from Lake Placid, and offers skiing, hiking, gondola rides, and mountain biking and is the only one of the High Peaks that can be reached by roadway. It has a vertical elevation of 3,430 feet (which is the highest vertical elevation in Eastern North America) and contains one of only sixteen bobsled runs in the Western Hemisphere.

Mirror Lake: during the cold, winter months Mirror Lake is another big draw to Lake Placid, as there’s a variety of activities to partake in, including snowshoeing, pond hockey, dogsled rides, tobogganing, cross-country skiing, and recreational ice skating on the two-mile long, plowed track that surrounds it (which was first created during the winter of 2014). The toboggan chute on Mirror Lake has been rebuilt in recent years, but there’s some cool history about its predecessor, as it was made from a recycled ski jump that was moved from its original location at the Lake Placid Club in the 1960’s. Today, the thirty-foot-high slide sends toboggans down ice covered chutes onto frozen Mirror Lake and is usually open by the beginning or middle of January and usually closes early spring (in spring 2026 operations concluded on March 6th).

The Lake Placid Sinfonietta: The area is also home to the Lake Placid Sinfonietta, a professional summer chamber orchestra that was established in 1917 and is made up of twenty top musicians from across the US. Known affectionately as ‘The Orchestra of the Adirondacks,’ outside of their summer residency, these musicians perform with prominent national symphonies (such as the Rochester Philharmonic and the Alabama Symphony) and serve on elite university music faculties. Under the leadership of Music Director Stuart Malina, the Sinfonietta structures its summer seasons around three core concert series: The Park Series (which are free, family-friendly outdoor concerts held on Wednesday evenings at 7:00 PM), The Symphony Series (a ticketed series that features full masterworks, distinguished soloists, and guest artists that are hosted on Sunday evenings at 7:30 PM across elegant local venues like St. Agnes Church), and The Adirondack Series (which is designed to strengthen regional community engagement and brings special classical and pops programming out to unique alternate venues and historic sites across the Adirondacks).

Shopping: Another big draw to Lake Placid is shopping along Main Street, which is fun to do at any time of year (although I am more likely to eat ice cream while spending money in the summer versus the winter). The cheerful stretch of roadway features a variety of different local eateries, souvenir shops, and the Lake Placid Olympic Museum; the area also features a thriving local craft beer scene, like the legendary Lake Placid Pub and Brewery (home to the famous Ubu Ale) and Big Slide Brewery.

The Wild Center: one thing that my husband and I both greatly enjoyed while on our vacation (despite not having children) was The Wild Cener, which was a fifty-minute drive from our Air BnB in Saranac Lake. Formerly known as the Natural History Museum of the Adirondacks, The Wild Center is a natural history center in Tupper Lake, NY near the center of the Adirondack Park and was founded in 1998 by Elizabeth Lowe. The museum opened in 2006 and in 2015 the outdoor Wild Walk exhibit opened to the public, which consists of over a thousand feet of bridges, pathways, and platforms.

The center mixes up the indoors and outdoors and sits on a 115-acre campus; it has five primary indoor exhibit areas (along with approximately fifty species of live animals) and outdoor exhibits that take visitors into the various ecosystems that surround the center. There are canoe trips available on the river that runs through its campus, and daily guided trail walks are also offered (which are done with complimentary snowshoes in the winter).

Site of the Future Winter Olympics?? In June 2026, New York state Governor Kathy Hochul formed an exploratory committee to study a potential joint NYC/Lake Placid bid for the 2042 Winter Olympics which will spend one year evaluating the logistical, environmental, and financial feasibility of a dual-city hosting model before presenting its recommendations. The proposed model draws inspiration from the multi-site layout demonstrated during the Milan-Cortina Winter Olympics, and current concepts propose hosting outdoor snow and sliding disciplines (like bobsleigh, luge, and skeleton) in Lake Placid’s existing venues, while NYC’s high-capacity arenas like Madison Square Garden and Barclays Center would support indoor ice events. Because the 2034 games are awarded to Salt Lake City and Switzerland is the preferred bidder for 2038, 2042 is the first available opportunity for NYC to pursue a formal bid.

Interesting Facts about Lake Placid: (1) the term ‘vacation’ was coined there in the 19th century when NYC’s elite started ‘vacating’ the city in search for the cool northern woods and fresh air of the Adirondacks each summer, and ever since then Americans have ‘gone on vacation.’

(2) Lake Placid is one of the purest lakes on earth: only 2.5% of the water on earth is fresh water, and of that only 1% is suitable for drinking. Lake Placid is included in that 1% and is classified as AA-Special, the highest rating for water quality.

Some interesting facts about The Adirondack Mountains: they’re so big you could fit Glacier, Yosemite, Great Smoky Mountains, Yellowstone, and Grand Canyon National Parks inside of it. They span an incredible 6.1 million acres and cover almost 20% of New York state, and they are the largest protected natural area in the lower 48 states: more than 2.5 million acres of its mountains, streams, and woods are protected under the Forever Wild status, which was established in 1892 and added to the New York State Constitution in 1894. It prohibits the removal, sale, or destruction of timber and ensures that the forests cannot be developed, logged, or used for commercial purposes and guarantees that they remain as wild forest lands forever.

A map of the Village of Lake Placid in the Adirondacks.
Some laws and rules surrounding Lake Placid.
A map of the major roadways in Lake Placid along with its major landmarks.
A map of Lake Placid courtesy of the local Chamber of Commerce.
A 1953 US Geological Survey Map of Lake Placid.
Lake Placid in 1979. Photo: AP Archives/ADKtaste.com
New York’s Fresh Surface Water Classifications, courtesy of Google.
A guide to decipher the Köppen classification system, courtesy of Valerya Milovanova.
A graph showing plant hardiness zones.
A picture of philanthropist Gerrit Smith., who was one of 19th-century America’s most prominent social reformers, abolitionists, and philanthropists; at one point was considered to be the wealthiest landowner in New York state. He died on December 28, 1874 while visiting relatives in New York City.
A picture of John Brown, who spent much of his adult life moving across Ohio, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, and New York; he attempted numerous vocations during his lifetime, and over the years found work as a tanner, sheep drover, cattle trader, surveyor, and land speculator; unfortunately, he was plagued by poor economic conditions and questionable business decisions and suffered at least fifteen failed business endeavors and was the target of dozens of lawsuits.
Melville Louis Kossuth ‘Melvil’ Dewey, an American librarian and educator who collected many accolades over the years: he created the Dewey Decimal system of library classification, was a founder of the Lake Placid Club, was a chief librarian at Columbia College, was a founder of what would later become the Columbia University School of Library Service and was a founding member of the American Library Association. Although his contributions to the modern library are widely recognized, his legacy is marred by his sexual harassment of female colleagues, as well as his racism and antisemitism; he died on December 26, 1931.
Some information about Florida’s Lake Placid.
George White. When he first settled in the area in 1875 he lived in the only house standing, and during this time the town of Newman was separate from Lake Placid.
The 1980 USA men’s hockey team.
An advertisement for a book about the ‘Miracle on Ice’ hockey game that was published in The Buffalo News on March 16, 1980.
Roni at ‘Marion’s cabin’ at the Happy Pastures Campground (which is located located between Skaneateles and Otisco Lakes in the town of Spafford), which is where we stayed the first night of our journey (it worked out that on Friday I took a half day at work and my husband’s soccer game was cancelled so we decided to roll with it and book a place somewhere mid-way). It was a pretty bare bones and didn’t even have a bathroom (I’m willing to take a walk to pee, because I’m cheap), but it did have a fire pit, a picnic table, and rustic surroundings.
The logo for Happy Pastures Campground.
An aerial shot of Happy Pastures Campground, located between Skaneateles and Otisco Lakes in the town of Spafford.
The iconic ‘Entering Adirondack Park’ sign is a beloved landmark for travelers arriving in Upstate New York. Shaped like the unique, jagged outline of the Adirondack Blue Line border, the traditional sign features a rustic wooden backing with distinct yellow or gold lettering. They are managed by the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation and mark the boundaries of the 6-million-acre park. Photo courtesy of John Ziolkowski.
Roni in front of the iconic wooden welcome sign for the village of Lake Placid, which acknowledges its famous history as the site of the 1932 and 1980 Olympic Winter Games.
Roni at Origins Coffee Company, which is a popular, women-owned specialty shop located in the heart of Lake Placid that is known for its cozy atmosphere complete with an indoor fireplace. It serves as a favorite local hub for specialty espresso drinks, fresh bakery items, and chef-driven breakfast/lunch options.
A screen grab from the Origin’s Coffee website about the owners.
Formerly known as ‘The Lake Placid Antique Center,’ Vintage Antiques opened in the early 1980’s and is located right in the heart of downtown Lake Placid across from the Olympic Oval; it features an extensive variety of antiques, 1932 and 1980 Olympic memorabilia, vintage ice skates, and custom stained-glass lamps.
The Penalty Box Arcade in Lake Placid, which opened in March 2025. The shop has a deeply nostalgic historical concept that seamlessly blends the local heritage of hockey with a classic retro gaming experience; it was established by passionate local hockey players and fans who wanted to build an energetic, family-friendly space celebrating both the sport and retro gaming culture.
Originally constructed in 1922 to accommodate a booming student population, Lake Placid Middle and High School was expanded in the mid-1930’s (with the assistance from the Federal Emergency Administration of Public Works). During the first Lake Placid Winter Olympics in 1932, the adjacent outdoor Speed Skating Oval (which was co-owned by the school district) served as the venue where local legend Jack Shea won two gold medals, and during the second Winter Olympics, the school was issued a temporary liquor license and served as a bar for visitors, standing out as the only high school in the US to ever hold one.
The James C. Sheffield Speed Skating Oval in Lake Placid, which is a world-renowned outdoor sports facility that is deeply rooted in Olympic history and is celebrated as the venue where speed skater Eric Heiden won five individual gold medals during the 1980 Olympic Games. Located in the heart of Lake Placid village, it remains one of the last outdoor, refrigerated Olympic-sized speed skating ovals still operating in the US.
The speed skating circle in front of Lake Placid Middle and High School, which adapts dynamically to the seasons: during the winter, it opens up for outdoor ice skating and continues to host long-track speed skating competitions and training sessions. In the summer months, the ice is cleared so visitors can enjoy outdoor inline skating. Skate rentals (for both ice and inline skating) are available directly at the oval. Photo courtesy of lakeplacid.com.
Skaters enjoying The James C. Sheffield Speed Skating Oval in Lake Placid, located in front of the local Middle and High School. Photo courtesy of lakeplacid.com.
An aerial shot of the village of Lake Placid. Photo courtesy of ADKplace.com
John Amos Shea (aka ‘The Chief’) was a double-gold medalist in speed skating at the 1932 Olympics and was the first American to win two gold medals at one Winter Olympics; Shea died on January 22, 2002.
Roni standing outside of the Herb Brooks Arena at the Lake Placid Olympic Center, which is famous for hosting the 1980 ‘Miracle on Ice’ hockey game (at that time it was known as the Olympic Center Ice Rink). The venue was recently renovated and features three indoor ice rinks and the outdoor speed skating oval, and the museum inside (the Lake Placid Olympic Museum) showcases artifacts and mementos from the 1932 and 1980 Winter Olympic Games.
Herb Brooks, who was an American ice hockey player and the head coach of the 1980 U.S. Men’s Olympic Ice Hockey Team and is best known as the mastermind behind the historic ‘Miracle on Ice’ game; he died on August 11, 2003.
Dr. Eric Heiden, who is an iconic American orthopedic surgeon and former long-track speed skater who is widely considered one of the greatest athletes in Olympic history: he became a household name at the 1980 games by achieving a feat that remains unmatched in winter sports when he became the only athlete to win five individual gold medals in a single Olympics. Notably, the night before his final 10,000-meter race, Heiden stayed up late cheering on the US ‘Miracle on Ice’ game and overslept the following morning, but he still went on to win gold after rushing to the track with only a few slices of bread for breakfast.
Roni in front of the Lake Placid Club Lodges, a resort property located at 30 Lake Placid Club Way. The main building features classic Adirondack-style architecture, which is recognizable by its dark brown facade, dark green window frames and trim, and prominent wooden balconies.
The Devlin (which is located at 2764 Main Street), formerly known as ‘Art Devlin’s Olympic Motor Inn.’ The property sits on the exact birthplace of Art Devlin Senior, who operated the inn for decades and was a central community figure who helped secure the 1980 Winter Olympics for Lake Placid. The distinctive Olympic rings mounted on the building’s facade were installed by Devlin before 1962, and because they predated the International Olympic Committee’s official trademarking of the symbol, the property was legally grandfathered in to display them. The main office lobby features a large, glass display case showcasing Art Devlin’s lifelong collection of international ski jumping trophies, medals, and unique Olympic memorabilia.
A picture of the original ‘Art Devlin’s Olympic Motor Inn.’ Photo courtesy of thedevlinny.com
Arthur ‘Art’ Donovan Devlin Senior, an Olympic Ski Jumper/Community Leader and a native and lifelong ambassador of Lake Placid that has a long standing legacy that spans multiple areas: during World War II he served as a B-24 bomber pilot in the US Army Air Corps, flying 50 combat missions over Europe; he went on to earn three Purple Hearts and three Distinguished Flying Crosses. He qualified for five US Olympic teams (1940, 1948, 1952, 1956, and 1960) and competed in the 1952 and 1956 Winter Games. He was inducted into the US Ski & Snowboard Hall of Fame in 1963 and for over two decades, served as a television sports commentator and color analyst for CBS and ABC Sports, frequently acting as the ‘voice of ski jumping’ during Olympic broadcasts. He was also a vice-president of the organizing committee that successfully lobbied to bring the 1980 Winter Olympic Games to Lake Placid.
Roni in front of Wildwood on the Lake, a family-owned, three-star lakeside motel located in Lake Placid. Operated by the Weber family since 1971, it functions as a relaxing ‘mini-resort’ destination and serves as a scenic, budget-friendly base camp for exploring the surrounding Adirondack region.
The Town House Lodge in Lake Placid. Over the decades, it transitioned from a mid-century, roadside motor lodge into a modern, retro-inspired boutique property. It originated during the post-WWII American travel boom and was designed as a classic roadside motel that provided affordable, straightforward lodging for families, road-trippers, and outdoor enthusiasts coming to hike the High Peaks.
The Maple Leaf Inn operates as a classic, comfortable 2-star budget-friendly motor lodge property located at 2234 Saranac Avenue. Positioned along Highway 86, the inn sits close to major landmarks like Paradox Bay, Mirror Lake, and downtown Main Street. Rather than the massive, all-inclusive luxury resort structures of the 19th century, the Maple Leaf Inn features a direct-access layout typical of mid-century motor lodges, and is engineered for independent tourists traveling via personal vehicles to nearby trailheads, ski slopes, and historic venue.
Roni posing in front of The Pines Inn, a historic three-star hotel located at 2302 Saranac Ave in Lake Placid. Built originally in 1907 by Albert Stickney, from 1923 through the mid-20th century, it was famously known as the St. Moritz Hotel and operated as a bustling luxury getaway for historical figures (like Albert Einstein). It is recognized as the tallest building in Lake Placid Village, offering multi-story alpine views of the High Peaks.
Roni outside of The Grand Adirondack Hotel is a historic, newly renovated 4-star property located at 2520 Main Street in Lake Placid. Originally built in 1927 as the Hotel Marcy, it has just a 5-minute walk from the Olympic Center and offers modern amenities, like high-speed internet and pet-friendly rooms. The hotel features the Marcy Bar for locally inspired cocktails and artisanal dishes and is most famous for the Cloudsplitter, a seasonal rooftop bar that provides panoramic views of Mirror Lake and the Adirondack High Peaks skyline.
A Facebook ad for an event for the Cloudsplitter Rooftop Bar that was posted on October 9, 2024.
Lake Placid Inn on Main Street. Situated directly on Lake Placid’s historic Main Street, these luxury apartment-style suites were designed based on direct feedback from early guests looking to stay in the heart of the village and feature full kitchens and accommodate larger groups of up to eight people.
Roni in front of Generations Restaurant, a family-owned restaurant located at the Golden Arrow Lakeside Resort. German immigrants Wini and Stefanie Holderied bought the motel in 1974 and turned the property into a resort and opened the restaurant, which is currently being run by their grandchildren. The eatery offers casual American and Bavarian food and uses fresh, local ingredients from nearby Adirondack farms.
Roni in front of Golden Arrow Lakeside Resort, a family-friendly destination located at 2559 Main Street. Situated directly in the center of the village, it sits right on the shores of Mirror Lake. It offers immediate walking access to local boutiques, dining, and the historic Lake Placid Olympic Center and guests can access a private white sand beach with complimentary summer rentals for kayaks, canoes, rowboats, and stand-up paddleboards and the property hosts Generations Restaurant, which serves meals crafted from locally sourced Adirondack ingredients
St. Agnes Catholic Church in Lake Placid, which is a prominent parish located just up the hill from Mirror Lake and one block off Main Street. It serves both the local community and visitors to the Adirondack region with a beautiful worship environment featuring artfully designed altars and stained-glass windows.
Roni in front of St. Agnes Church, which is a Neo-Gothic brick Catholic church located at 169 Hillcrest Avenue in Lake Placid, New York. Construction on the current building began in 1924 and remarkably, instead of dismantling the previous wooden building that was built in 1915, the crew literally built the new building directly over the top of the old one.
Roni in front of Saint Agnes School in Lake Placid, which is a private, Catholic early elementary center that provides a co-educational, faith-based learning community. It offers year-round childcare tailored for infants and toddlers and has academic programs ranging from pre-school through the third grade.
The contemporary Lake Placid Baptist Church that operates today has a unique origin story that is tied directly to the 1980 Winter Olympics: during the games Southern Baptists organized a massive evangelism and outreach campaign to minister to athletes, locals, and global tourists. Out of that temporary Olympic ministry, a small, dedicated group of believers saw a permanent need for a Gospel-centered community in the mountain resort town and they formally planted the modern Lake Placid Baptist Church later that same year.
The primary Jewish house of worship in the immediate area is the Lake Placid Synagogue, which serves as a historic, welcoming spiritual and cultural hub. It hosts regular Shabbat services, educational programming, community events, and seasonal High Holy Day services. The congregation also maintains the Lake Placid Synagogue Cemetery, located nearby on Old Military Road.
The Lake Placid Synagogue is the only year-round synagogue in the Adirondack Park.
One of the only things that remains of Melvin Dewey’s ‘Lake Placid Club’ is its golf course (which my husband played the last day of our trip), which is operated by the neighboring Crowne Plaza Lake Placid; it is the only 45-hole golf property in the Adirondacks.
A wide-shot of Main Street in Lake Placid. The locally owned and operated Ben & Jerry’s is located at 2423 Main Street (directly across from the local movie theatre) directly in the heart of Lake Placid. Operating as a classic franchised scoop shop, it serves up the brand’s signature euphoric flavors, freshly baked waffle cones, sundaes, and custom ice cream cakes. While the shop is a staple, it faces friendly local competition; for example, the nearby local establishment ‘Emma’s Lake Placid Creamery’ recently beat them in a community wide ‘Battle of the Cones’ contest.
The Bookstore Plus, located on the main drag in Lake Placid. It was created in 1973 and was originally opened by Nancy Beattie as a music and art shop; in 1977, she acquired an existing book shop and combined the operations to form the bookstore as it is known today.
The far end of Main Street in Lake Placid (we were standing at Stewarts).
A view of the mountains and Mirror Lake in the village of Lake Placid.
A map of Mirror Lake, featuring its characteristics and bathymetry, which is the science of measuring and mapping the depths and terrain of underwater environments.
A giant Adirondack chair sitting on the property shared by The Dack Shack restaurant and its sister deli, Simply Gourmet. The eatery was established in 2015 and before it was turned into The Dack Shack, the building famously served as a classic Howard Johnson’s restaurant.
Toni in front of The Mellow Moose Cannabis Company, which is a licensed recreational cannabis dispensary located in Lake Placid. As the first dispensary approved for off-site consumption in the village following a local referendum, and it opened in late 2025 and occupies a newly renovated retail space that previously housed CrossFit Lake Placid.
Roni posing with a (stuffed) moose at ‘The Mellow Moose Cannabis Company.’
A poster of Roni inside ‘The Mellow Moose Cannabis Company.’
Roni posing with some posters inside the ‘Locker Room 5,’ a local sporting goods and memorabilia store at 2573 Main Street. Its owners Jake and Erica opened the shop in 2017 and they named their store after the ‘Locker Room 5’ at the nearby Herb Brooks Arena, which is the famous room the U.S. Men’s Hockey Team used during the 1980 ‘Miracle on Ice.’
Roni posing with another poster inside the ‘Locker Room 5.’
Roni and the ’round building, located at 2345 Saranac Avenue is a former 1980 Winter Olympics gathering spot. The Adirondack Land Trust bought the vacant structure in 2026 for $2.1 million. They will renovate it into their new nonprofit headquarters.
The inside of the ‘tound building,’ that was originally built for the 1980 Olympics as the Austrian House for athletes and fans and was later repurposed completely as a sporting goods store then again as the Aroma Round coffee shop; it was recently purchased by the Adirondack Land Trust to become their permanent headquarters.
A b&w picture of The Palace Theatre, which opened in 1926 and was originally named ‘The Adirondack Theatre.’ The building featured vaudeville acts and silent films accompanied by a rare, 1926 Robert Morton theatre organ. The local Clark family purchased the theatrr in 1961. Reginald Clark bought it as a wedding gift for his wife, Barbara. The Clark family still operates and owns the cinema today.
A 1926 Robert Morton theatre organ much like the one originally at Palace Theatre. Located in the largest main auditorium, the instrument is valued at roughly $357,000 (in modern equivalents) and includes rare acoustic ‘toys,’ like drums and whistles that were used for silent film soundtracks.
Roni in front of The Palace Theatre, which opened on Main Street in 1926 as a single-screen venue for both movies and vaudeville shows (which is a popular form of live variety entertainment in North America from the 1880’s to the 1930’s that featured ten to fifteen unrelated acts on a single bill, ranging from comedians and acrobats to musicians, magicians, and trained animals). Bought by Reg Clark in 1961, the historic venue was later renovated into a four-screen theatre while maintaining its original 1920’s vintage charm, and to this day it retains many of its original Neo-Classical architectural features, including cast plaster chandeliers, wall sconces, and a 1926 Robert Morton pipe organ (which is one of the only remaining theatre organs in the US).
The inside of The Palace Theatre in Lake Placid. The auditorium’s ceiling originally featured painted angels watching over its patrons but they were covered over in the 1930’s with acoustic material to accommodate the transition to ‘talkies’ (which were early motion pictures that incorporated synchronized recorded dialogue, music, and sound effects).
Roni in front of Adirondack Decorative Arts & Crafts, which is three-story shop featuring Adirondack-themed items, including gifts, décor, furniture and handmade goods.
Roni in front of the Post Office in Lake Placid, which was designed and built in 1935–1936 and is one of a number of post offices in New York State designed by the Office of the Supervising Architect of the Treasury Department under Louis A. Simon. The building is in the Colonial Revival style and is a one-story, five-bay, steel-framed building on a raised foundation with a cast-stone watertable and clad in orange/buff-colored brick. The interior features a group of murals executed in 1937 by Henry Billings.
It was listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1988.
Roni and the Adirondack Community Church in Lake Placid, which is made of stone and was built on the shores of Mirror Lake in 1927. The facility expanded in 1958 and underwent modern renovations in the 21st century to improve accessibility; the congregation operates as a United Methodist church while maintaining a community-focused spirit.
Lake Placid Pub & Brewery, which is considered the area’s pioneer craft brewery and spans three floors overlooking Mirror Lake.
An advertisement for Ubu Ale, which is a famous flagship craft beer brewed by the Lake Placid Pub & Brewery that is highly recognizable throughout the Adirondack region. It is an English-style ale (though often noted for having distinct, hardy characteristics) and is a deep garnet red to dark brown in color and features rich flavors of dark fruit and roasted malt, hints of toasty chocolate, and a slightly bitter finish; it has an ABV of 7.0%. and a Bitterness (IBU) of 33 (which ranges from 0 to 120+).
The Lake Placid Volunteer Fire Department, which was established in 1905 and serves the community of Lake Placid and the surrounding Town of North Elba.
Roni at the A&W Restaurant in Wilmington, New York (just outside of Lake Placid), which has served the Adirondacks since 1965. This seasonal roadside stand serves traditional A&W favorites like Papa Burgers, Coney Dogs, cheese curds, and root beer made fresh daily in frosty mugs. This was the second time we stayed in the same Air BnB and I had no idea it was there until two days into our second trip.
A picture of the original A&W Restaurant in Wilmington when it was constructed in 1965.
Roni posing outside of Lake Placid’s American Legion Post 326, which dates back to 1919. The current headquarters is located at 2710 Main Street and was a former rooming house.
Roni outside of the Lake Placid Legion Post 326.
Roni at the bar at the American Legion in Lake Placid.
Wiseguy’s Bar in Lake Placid, which is described as casual dining joint that offers ‘classic pub grub,’ a variety of adult drinks, and bar games like pool & dart boards.
Roni standing in front of the Lake Placid Public Library, which overlooks Mirror Lake and features over 27,000 items, free WiFi, and public computers; it also hosts a children’s room, a local history archive, and the Guy Brewster Hughes Art Gallery.
Roni standing in front of some historic lake pictures (and Mirror Lake) at the Lake Placid Public Library.
Roni at a miniature desk at the Lake Placid Library.
Roni at a miniature Adirondack chair at the Lake Placid Library.
Roni in front of the Lake Placid Olympic and Paralympic Training Center, which opened in November 1982 following the Winter Olympics and specializes in sports like bobsled, skeleton, luge, and biathlon. The campus features a 96-bed athletic facility and is currently home to one of three US Olympic Training Centers, which caters to a variety of different sports including speed skating, boxing, canoeing, kayaking, judo, rowing, synchronized swimming, team handball, water polo, and wrestling.
Roni outside of the Lake Placid Olympic and Paralympic Training Center.
Roni at the top of Whiteface Mountain, which transforms into a premier Adirondack summer destination during the summer months and offers a variety of high-alpine activities, from scenic drives and gondola rides to guided nature hikes and disc golf.
Whiteface in the summer months. Picture courtesy of Lincoln Riddle.
Roni in front of The Lake Placid Toboggan Chute, located on Parkside Drive on Mirror Lake and adjacent to the Post Office. It has been in operation since the 1960’s and is currently being run by The North Elba Park District. Recently rebuilt from the ground up, our current structure replaced a 30′ high converted ski jump trestle.
Roni in downtown Saranac Lake, a small mountain village with a deeply unique history. Long before it became a popular year-round destination for outdoor recreation, it was recognized worldwide as a pioneer center for public health, scientific research, and fresh-air medical treatment.
Roni at Bitters & Bones, a popular craft microbrewery and rustic kitchen located in downtown Saranac Lake, just a short drive from Lake Placid (we went on the way home from The Wild Center). Known for its unpretentious, community-driven atmosphere, the venue blends the charm of a local hometown tavern with an elevated culinary and brewing experience. We really enjoyed our food and out waitress was very nice.
Roni sitting on the menu at Bitters & Bones.
Romano’s Saranac Lanes & Family Fun Center, located at 11 Bloomingdale Avenue in Saranac Lake. It was known as Mar-Mac Bowling Center from 1955 to 1976 and in 2006 retired NYC correction officer Jeffrey Romano and his wife Cathy bought and renovated the building and renamed it Romano’s Saranac Lanes.
Roni outside of The Wild Center. Original picture courtesy of The Wild Center.
An aerial shot of The Wild Center in Saranac Lake taken from their website.
A Google Maps view of The Wild Center taken from their website.
Roni standing next to a cloud and fog simulation machine located at The Wild Center. It is meant to be an interactive exhibit, and visitors are encouraged to touch, swirl, and feel the dense vapor to learn how clouds and fog form.
Roni with an interactive fruit and vegetable exhibit at The Wild Center.
Roni in front of a painting at The Wild Center titled ‘Keep an Eye on the (green) Horizon’ that was created by Akwesasne Mohawk artist David Kanietakeron Fadden; it features Lillyana Thompson-Garrow, a young Akwesasne Mohawk environmental advocate, standing with her arms wide open toward the sky under a flying bird. The mural serves as a central centerpiece for the centers ‘Climate Solutions’ exhibition.
Roni standing next to a vintage Western Electric Sculptura telephone, that is often referred to as a ‘donut phone’ due to its distinctive circular shape. Manufactured in the 1960’s/1970’s, this particular model features a push-button keypad and is considered a space-age or mod classic, reflecting the aesthetic of that era.
Roni in front of a display that is a part of the award-winning ‘Climate Solutions’ exhibition located inside The Wild Center. The interactive grid consists of rotating wooden tiles featuring inspiring quotes from climate leaders, scientists, and indigenous activists, that is beautifully paired with custom illustrations by local artists. It focuses on humanity’s deep interconnection with the natural world and how grassroots efforts can heal the planet.
Roni in front of a paper bird display at The Wild Center that features hundreds of colorful origami shapes hung like flying butterflies and birds across a prominent green backdrop.
Roni in front of an ADK Map Moss Wall located at The Wild Center, which is a ‘collage’ of the outline of Adirondack Park (often referred to as the Blue Line) and made out of real, sustainably harvested moss specimens and other natural materials.
Roni in front of a display at The Wild Center that highlights how unique flora adapts to acidic, nutrient-poor wetland environments. The interpretive text details a special adaptation called ‘layering,’ where the lower, former branches of an old tree touch the surrounding peat, take root, and eventually grow into entirely new, independent trees.
Roni in front of an indoor bog habitat exhibit at The Wild Center, which replicates a classic northern wetland ecosystem that largely consists of living sphagnum moss, which acts as a dense sponge holding moisture and maintaining the acidic environment needed for flora.
Another picture of Roni in front of an indoor bog habitat exhibit at The Wild Center; a bog is a soft, spongy wetland ecosystem that is characterized by acidic, nutrient-poor water as well as the accumulation of decaying plant matter, primarily sphagnum moss and peat.
Roni in front of a grassy exhibit at The Wild Cener.
Roni with some Painted Turtles, a common domestic species that are also often found on the trails of The Wild Center and as well as Greenleaf Pond.
A painted turtle, which is the most widespread native turtle in North America and is known for its strikingly bright markings. It lives in slow-moving waters from southern Canada to northern Mexico and features a smooth, relatively flat upper shell that is dark green or black, and its edges boast distinct red and yellow pattern. Their skin is dark and has vivid yellow and red stripes running down the head, neck, and limbs; they also have characteristic yellow spots right behind their eyes. Adult females reach four to ten inches in length, while males are notably smaller and usually top out at around seven inches.
Roni in front of a common garter snake, a frequent resident and native ambassador animal at The Wild Center.
Roni with some Wood Ducks at The Wild Center, which are colorful perching ducks that live in wooded swamps and marshes. They are cavity nesters, meaning they lay eggs inside tree holes rather than on the ground, and females are the only North American waterfowl that raise two broods per year. Male Wood Ducks have bold, iridescent feathers, a crested head, and bright red eyes where female ones have gray-brown bodies and white teardrop shapes around their eyes. Adult ducks mainly eat seeds, nuts, and aquatic plants, where ducklings eat insects and spiders.
A female (l) and male (r) Wood Duck.
It’s hard to tell, but if you look super close there’s an otter in the top of this picture. The Wild Center is home to four North American River Otters, who are named Scarlett, Rohsnore, Tawine, and Gary.
Three of the four otters that are currently at The Wild Center (this must have been taken before Gary joined their crew).
A North American River Otter.
Roni in front of a cross-section model of a carnivorous pitcher plant, which is found within The Naturalist’s Cabinet in the main indoor exhibit hall as part of an exhibit that highlights the Adirondack bog ecosystem. Bogs have highly acidic, nutrient-poor soil, forcing plants like pitchers (Sarracenia purpurea) and sundews to supplement their nutrition by capturing and digesting insects.
Roni in front of a cross-section of earth showcasing distinct geological and soil layers, which is featured as part of a subterranean educational display at The Wild Center.
Roni in front of an interactive display or model from The Wild Center, which showcases a macro view of two soil-dwelling invertebrates, specifically a segmented arthropod with pairs of legs on each body segment (which is commonly found breaking down organic matter in the forest floor) as well as the larval stage of a large beetle (like the stag or scarab beetle).
Roni in front of a taxidermized mount of an Eastern Coyote inside the Dermestid Beetle Exhibit at The Wild Center, which is often referred to as a coywolf due to historical hybridization, which is a term for a genetic hybrid of coyotes, wolves, and domestic dogs. The exhibit is meant to give visitors a unique look at how natural history museums sometimes utilize flesh-eating dermestid beetles to clean tissue off of animal bones, which helps prepare skeletal specimens for study and display.
Roni posing with a gray wolf skull replica, which has a pronounced sagittal crest along the top, a long snout, and distinctly large canine and carnassial teeth that were adapted for a carnivorous diet.
Roni in front of a topographical terrain model of the Adirondack Mountains featured at The Wild Center; the scale model represents the regional peaks and valleys of the six-million-acres of the Adirondack Parks.
Roni in front of an interactive, high-tech globe that displays real-time satellite views from space, including live storms, airplanes, and climate data that is located in the Planet Adirondack wing of The Wild Center.
Roni at an area at The Wild Center where you can view the natural wildlife in its natural setting.
Roni on Fen Trail, the primary, one mile, fully outdoor loop trail that winds through the forest and leads to a wetland area near Raquette River.
A picture of part of the Raquette River Roll, which is a ball run experience on Fen Trail.
Roni perched on a large-scale stickwork sculpture titled ‘Hopscotch’ that was created by artist Patrick Dougherty; the immersive piece of artwork was created using locally sourced saplings that were woven together by the creator as well as a team of volunteers.
A full view of Hopscotch. picture courtesy of The Wild Center Instagram’s page.
Roni posing on the banks of Raquette River, which connects to the larger Tupper Lake.
The giant spider at The Wild Center, which is a massive, oversized art sculpture on the outdoor Wild Walk treetop trail that hovers over a giant, human-sized rope spider web that guests can climb and safely stand on.
Roni in the interactive treehouse outside at The Wild Center, which covers more than 1,000 feet of bridges and platforms, which allows visitors to walk forty feet above the ground, and experience the Adirondack forest from a completely different perspective.
Roni posing with a trail marker at The Wild Center that serves as a visual gateway and helps to guide hundreds of thousands of visitors as they set out to explore the property’s forested paths.
Sofus Lotus, who is also known as the ‘Listening Troll.’ One of his favorite things to do is lie down with his ear pressed against the earth and listen to its rhythm, and by being quiet and listening carefully he is able to hear all the crackle, thud, and buzz happening right beneath his feet.
Roni posing with Rosa Sunfinger, who is a shy, introverted troll who loves to care for plants and other green creatures. Her face is as gentle as her personality, and she always has a sweet, sunny smile on her cheeks.
Roni and Rosa Sunfinger; despite being a tad introverted, Sunfinger is not afraid of speaking up if she has to, however when she does, she chooses her words carefully and finds that the best way of expressing herself is through nature and plants.
Roni posing with Basse Buller, who is known as ‘The Painting Troll.’ This troll tends to be all over the place and likes to spread his message in mud paint on every available surface, and is a wild child at heart.
Another picture of Basse Buller, who is widely recognized as the artistic ‘wild child’ of the group and is known for using mud paint, stones, leaves, and sticks to paint on every available surface in nature.
Ronja Redeye, who is the known as the ‘Speaker Troll’ and is the official leader of the group (despite being the smallest); Ronja’s mission is to save humans and reconnect them with nature, and her eyes turn red when she is passionate and she has a mighty voice.
Roni with the Kamma Cam troll; known as the ‘Treasure Troll,’ she has a unique personality, and finds human trash beautiful and wonders why people throw so many things away.
Toni with Ibbi Pip, a troll that is known as the ‘Birdhouse Troll’ that hangs colorful birdhouses around the forest to remind humans to care for nature.
The birdhouses leading to the troll, Ibbi Pip. She likes to hang colorful birdhouses around the forest to teach people to care for nature.