Benjamin Lawrence “Larry” Baker.

I’m not going to be able to post a full article but I just wanted to stop and talk about one of the unconfirmed victims families:

In 1974, Brenda Joy Baker was 14 when she was found brutally murdered in Pierce County, WA. Her older brother Benjamin Lawrence “Larry” Baker. (below) was born December 4, 1956 and passed away at 25 in 1982. Brenda’s younger brother was born in 1960 and sadly only lived until he was 21.

I’m re-watching Primes ‘Falling for a Killer,’ and listening to Lynda Ann Healy’s sister speak about how Bundy’s actions had lifelong effects on her family made me think of the Baker family. On top of losing their daughter (murder is such a senseless act), they also experienced two other very early losses; no parent should have to bury their children, and they buried all three. Some people are just born with tragedy in their blood.

Benjamin Baker.

Mom.

(From July 12, 2022):

My Mom passed away today. She was sick for almost six years, she’s finally at peace. Here’s some pictures of her in the late 60’s/ early 70’s. I couldn’t find any with her hair down.

My grandparents on their wedding day.
A picture of my grandparents on their wedding day along with thgeir wedding party.
My mom standing in front of her childhood home on the day of her first communion.
My Mom on the day of her first holy communion standing with my grandma and grandpa.
My mom holding one of her cats in her St, Mary’s uniform.
My mom standing with the car she would later take on her honeymoon with my dad.
Classic hippie garb.
Mom sunning with one of her cats.
My mom standing in front of her childhood home.
My mom with her grandparents.
My mom on the day of her high school graduation.
My mom in her softball uniform.
My mom in July 1971.
My moms senior picture.
My mom on the day of her high school graduation.
My parents before they were married.

Mom & Dad.

Oh my Gosh look at the waves in my Dad’s hair! It’s got to be a 70’s thing.

I found myself watching him a lot today. For 46 years he was always part of a unit, and now he’s by himself. Going from the funeral home to my Aunts house for dinner earlier he asked my niece to drive with him, and typical kid she kind of sighed about it (the 30 foot walk from her Moms car to his was a tough one, I’ll admit) so I just went with him. I was grateful to have some one on one time with him, just the two of us. I found myself not wanting to leave him. I even thought about skipping my husband’s soccer game to spend more time with him. But I can’t be around him 24 hours a day. Charlie’s like, almost been standing guard over me and the hovering has been driving me a bit mad. But I know it’s done out of love.

Dying is a part of life. I firmly believe that. Going through pictures yesterday I found a little saying from an old Mary Englebrite calender glued onto one of my baby pictures. It said, ‘a baby is God’s way of saying life goes on.’ I thought that was fitting, especially since we’ve been trying to start a family. She’s still here, living on through me. And my sister and niece. She was wonderful.

Mom – Graduation Day.

This is my Mom the day of her high school graduation. I can see the happiness and excitement about life in her eyes. Now she’s gone. At the end of her funeral my Dad carried her box of ashes to the back of the church. In 1978 they took the same walk together down the same isle when they got married. But todays journey had a completely different meaning. Life is so short, and so precious. And it’s moving really, really fast. She would have wanted me to live it up, and do as much as I can in the years I have left.

Wedding Rings.

These are my Grandmothers wedding rings. I very patiently waited for them. My Mom held onto them until she passed, they were really special to her. Now I’ll wear them for the rest of my life, and everytime I look at them I’ll think of not only my husband but my Grandparents and their love story.

Grandma/Grandpa Letters from Korea.

This will be the last post about my family, I promise. I’m almost done with my piece on Brenda Ball. I’m incredibly behind on my ASL class and I’m dreading checking my email (I’m putting it off until tomorrow morning). Anyways, these are some really neat old love letters my Grandfather sent to my Gram during the Korean War. They were a little older when they got married in 1954 (she was 32 AND two years older than him!), and I’ve always admired that my Gram waited for the right person. She didn’t marry the first attractive guy who looked her way. She’d always tell me not to commit to just one fellow and to date around… and she did, she’d date a few guys at once and not think anything of it. My Grandma had this classic, ol’ timey beauty to her that you don’t see often anymore, and my Grandfather looked like he had a really great sense of humor (he died when my Mom was 11). When I asked my Mom to tell me about her Dad, she said she remembers ‘a lot of giggling in the other room before bed.’ He loved to make her laugh. After he passed away she never had any interest in remarrying, or even dating. My Mom said Grandpa was her one great love and he was it. She wasn’t interested in anyone else. Whats strange is I feel the same way about my husband. All I ever wanted was to get married, to have what my parents had. I thought I had it a few times before him but (thankfully) was wrong. I think he’s the person God made for me, and if anything ever happens to him I’d be done. I hope I never have to worry about that.

Anyways, here’s the cards, and I included a picture of my Grandparents on their wedding day.

A picture of my Grandparents, Richard and Bernice Smith, on their wedding day.
A card from my Grandpa to my Gram, part 1/2.
A card from my Grandpa to my Gram, part 2/2.
A card from my Grandpa to my Gram, part 1/2.
A card from my Grandpa to my Gram, part 2/2.
A card from my Grandpa to my Gram, part 1/3.
A card from my Grandpa to my Gram, part 2/3.
A card from my Grandpa to my Gram, part 3/3.
A card from my Grandpa to my Gram, part 1/2.
A card from my Grandpa to my Gram, part 2/2.
A card from my Grandpa to my Gram, part 1/2.
A card from my Grandpa to my Gram, part 2/2.
A card from my Grandpa to my Gram, part 1/2.
A card from my Grandpa to my Gram, part 2/2.
A card from my Grandpa to my Gram, part 1/3.
A card from my Grandpa to my Gram, part 2/3.
A card from my Grandpa to my Gram, part 3/3.
A card from my Grandpa to my Gram, part 1/2.
A card from my Grandpa to my Gram, part 2/2.
A card from my Grandpa to my Gram, part 1/2.
A card from my Grandpa to my Gram, part 2/2.

Butterflies

My Grandma died in 2011. I have a really small family, her loss devastated us. She was our matriarch. After she passed my Mom was desperate for something from her, contact or a sign she was ok. I think within a year of her leaving us we went to a psychic fair, and we had some time to kill beforehand so we went out to get some food. We’re chatting up our waitress and at the end of our meal she gave us these butterfly rings. They were pretty and cute but we didn’t think much of it. So we part ways and eventually make it to go see a psychic, who said that whenever my Grandmother was near she’d show herself in the form of a butterfly. I never experienced something like that. It was fitting we put butterflies on my Moms prayer card. I also noticed we picked the same prayer for my Grandma’s card as well.

Brick.

So, it’s common knowledge that everything Ted Bundy has been done before. Whether it be books. Movies. Documentaries. Podcasts. It’s mostly the same information over and over again. On one hand, we know next to nothing about his crimes but what we do know has been studied and analyzed TO. DEATH. Finding content that is still engaging, relevant, and ‘fresh’ has been a bit of a challenge. So, this article is going to be about a brick. Yes, that’s right: I am writing the equivalent of a 5-page paper around a brick I found on campus at the University of Puget Sound.

Unfortunately, I’m not finding my summer course as easy as I was hoping it would be, so I haven’t been able to write as much as I would like to. In April when I was in Washington, I spent over 24 hours in Tacoma (complete with missing my bus back to Seattle so I had to stay overnight at their lovely Comfort Inn & Suites). Most of my sightseeing involved many house-visits (I went to Ted’s Uncle Jack’s former residence, all three Bundy homes, and little Ann Marie Burrs old house), but what I found to be the most pleasant of my sightseeing was my visit to the University of Puget Sound. I know only my friends really care about ME, but I’m a fairly social person and not having very much human contact during my eight-day trip had a very negative affect on my mental health. I feel it was a combination of the loneliness mixed with the negativity that almost clung in the atmosphere around me that made me feel despondent. I noticed this feeling got exponentially worse when I rented a vehicle and started going to 8-9 places a day. I came home and was an absolute raging megabitch to my husband for a good 3-4 weeks and I have no explanation for it. A darkness crept into my head that I’ve never felt before. When I went to Philadelphia, I made sure it was just an overnight trip (even though I was tempted to stay a second night I went home immediately) and any Bundy related traveling in the future will be done with a girlfriend.

Anyways, the point of my rambling is, my visit to The University of Puget Sound stands out a bit in my mind because I was around other people and was able to interact a bit with some students and professionals. I feel SO bad because I never got their names but the girls at the university-run café were VERY sweet and patiently answered all of my questions and even pretended to be interested in my project. So, if any of you are reading this (I told them the name of the blog) thank you for your time and insights; I really enjoyed my cup of earl gray as well. I do want to mention, I drank a LOT of tea in Seattle: there were Starbucks and bubble tea shops EVERYWHERE. Seriously, every other storefront was a coffee shop. I know I’ve expressed in previous posts that I was hesitant to bring up the purpose of my visit during my time in Washington because I didn’t want to rub anyone the wrong way or seem disrespectful, but if I didn’t start talking to these lovely young women I would have missed out on a few REALLY cool Bundy-related things, one of which I’ve never seen before. I also learned that Mrs. Bundy worked at the university during the time of the murders and that she even has a memorial stone near their fountain on campus (I thought she worked in the office at her church until she retired). Louise worked as a secretary for the communications and theater departmentsinthe oldest building on campus, Jones Hall. The girls excitedly went on to tell me about how he lived on campus in either Schiff or Anderson/Langdon Hall but… unfortunately after some research I learned that information was incorrect: Ted lived at home with his family in Tacoma during his first stint at the university, and when he returned in 1973 for law school he resided at the Rogers rooming house on 12th Avenue in Seattle. So, logically I immediately ran over and got a few million photos of both buildings. They also told me that the law school used to be in Thompson Hall, which also unfortunately isn’t true: I asked a woman who appeared friendly where the former law school was located, and she informed me that it was completely off campus. She seemed to be around my mothers age and seemed only mildly interested in answering my question: when the friend she was waiting for arrived she stopped talking to me mid-sentence and went over to say hello. So, whatever…

So, to the girls at the cafe: one out of three ain’t bad… Interestingly, the law school eventually was moved from Tacoma to Seattle and now goes by a completely different name, the Seattle University School of Law. It is described as a ‘professional graduate school affiliated with Seattle University.’ So, perhaps Bundy wasn’t too off track when he said it was subpar, as it obviously needed some form of revamping. The brick was a neat find though, and the campus was really pretty. I also got some pictures of the communications/theater building where Mrs. Bundy worked.
I read an article that in over that years ago, Tacoma librarians had to worry about yearbooks being destroyed because Bundyphiles would rip out entire pages that had Ted’s pictures on them (he attended Woodrow Wilson High School, now called the Dr. Dolores Silas HS). However, they said more recently people have stopped inquiring about the serial killer and his name has faded into nothingness… Perhaps this is because everything about Bundy is simply a Google search away? I don’t think it’s because interest in Ted has faded… in fact, I think it’s the complete opposite.

I am going to say that it was incredibly eerie being on the school grounds knowing there was a good chance that Ted *may* have disposed of little Ann Marie Burr’s body there, somewhere on campus. It’s a well-known theory that the young girl could have been Bundy’s first victim in late August of 1961 when he was 14 and she was just 8. Two of my favorite Bundy myths are associated with the Burr case, the first is that Bundy was the family’s paperboy at the time of Ann’s disappearance (he wasn’t). The Burrs lived 3.1 miles away from the Bundy’s (which is only a 20-minute bike ride), and only 0.1 miles away from the University of Puget Sound. My second favorite is that Ted’s Uncle Jack Cowell was Ann’s piano teacher; he wasn’t.

The school was in the middle of a large expansion project at the time in the summer of 1961, and was in the middle of constructing eight new buildings on campus. Donald Burr claimed that he saw a teenage boy that resembled Bundy digging a hole in a construction site and kicking dirt into it on the schools campus the morning his daughter disappeared. By the time law enforcement got around to investigating it was too late, and the project had advanced to the point of not being able to find any trace of the little girl. If Bundy did indeed dispose of Ann Marie’s body somewhere on the campus at the University of Puget Sound it must have been a real rush to attend classes there: every time he went to a function on campus, he would have revisited a victim, in a way. After just two semesters he left the school in 1966 and transferred to the University of Washington for a brief period to study Chinese. Shortly after he dropped out of school completely and worked an array of menial jobs across Seattle while also volunteering for Nelson Rockefeller’s presidential campaign.

Bundy eventually got his shit together enough (after screwing around at Temple University in Philadelphia for six months in early 1969) and went back to the University of Washington, earning a Bachelor’s degree ‘with distinction’ in psychology in 1972. The following year he went back to the University at Puget Sound, this time for law school. He eventually dropped out again (this is a pattern with Ted) and got a job as the assistant director of the Seattle Crime Prevention Advisory Commission. I don’t mean to get too off track, but I just wanted to point out something I learned just now… it’s widely known that Diane Edwards was Ted’s first real heartbreak, and after he made a name for himself in Washington politics he won her back, even going to far as to propose marriage, which she happily accepted. However, on January 3, 1974, Ted coldly ended things with her without reason, essentially getting his revenge for being dumped by her years prior. It was the very next day that he assaulted and left for dead Karen Sparks, his first (confirmed) victim. I suppose I never thought about the timing of that breakup and how it worked around the murders. Anyways, as everyone knows Bundy moved to Salt Lake City in fall of 1974 and went on to attend the University of Utah’s law school until he was arrested by Bob Hayworth on August 16, 1975. The rest, as they say, is history…

Bundy denied any involvement with Ann Marie Burr’s disappearance. Before his death, the killer was even in correspondence with Beverly Burr, who pleaded with Ted for information about her daughter: ‘I feel like YOUR FIRST MURDER WAS OUR ANN MARIE BURR. The bench from the back yard was used to climb into the living room; the orchard next door was a dark setting for murder. What did you do with her tiny body?’ He wrote back saying that he knew nothing about Ann’s death. Because no real evidence connected anyone else to the crime, little Ann Marie’s case remains open to this day.

South Tacoma Way location of the University of Puget Sound School of Law, Tacoma, Washington, 1973. Photo courtesy of the University of Puget Sound.
An old picture of the Norton Clapp Law Center at the University of Puget Sound School of Law.
A more current picture of what used to be the Norton Clapp Law Center at the University of Puget Sound School of Law.
The view walking up to the University of Puget Sound, 2022.
THIS was a neat find, it’s something I NEVER would have discovered if I didn’t chat up the girls from the university café.
I didn’t know Mrs. Bundy worked at the university; I was under the impression she was the secretary at her church and that was the job she held her entire career. But, like so many other things, I was wrong. I didn’t know Mrs. Bundy worked at the university; I was under the impression she was the secretary at her church and that was the job she held her entire career. But, like so many other things, I was wrong.
Jones Hall at the University at Puget Sound where Mrs. Bundy worked for many years until her retirement, April 2022.
A side view of the Burr house, April 2022. Can’t you see an adolescent Ted prowling around these bushes at night, peeking into the windows and going through trash… freaking weirdo.

“When I first saw that window open, I knew I would never see her again. I knew I would never know what happened.” … “It came to me, just like that. It was a strong feeling. When they were searching, I thought, ‘What’s the point?’ I knew she was gone, and we would never see her again.” – Beverly Burr interviewed by Rebecca Morris
A photo of the Burr’s former house, and it was absolutely lovely, especially with the tree blossoming in the front, April 2022.
The only signs of an intruder was the open living room window (left of the front door) and the footprint of someone wearing a sneaker. This photo is from 1961, I would have used one of my more recent ones but at the time of my visit the window was partially covered with bushes.
An older picture of the Burr’s house and Ann Marie. Photo courtesy of Kevin Sullivan.
Beverly Burr and her four children (Ann on far right). Fox Island, Summer 1960.
Beverly Burr pregnant with Ann.
Ann Marie Burr missing flyer, 1961.
Letter to Ted Bundy from Beverly Burr, written May 20, 1986. Photo courtesy of murderintherain.com.
Letter to Beverly Burr from Ted Bundy, written June 8, 1986. Photo courtesy of murderintherain.com.
Ted’s Uncle Jacks house, April 2022. It is only 1.3 miles away from the Burr’s house.
Ted’s Uncle Jack and his wife, Eleanor. At the time of his death in 2007 they were married for 63 years. He left behind two children: his daughter, Edna Martin and son, John DeCoville.
Diane Edwards senior photo. She didn’t end up too bad, she married a VP at a major financial company, Wells Fargo.
A photo of the Bundy home, 2012.
A photo of the Bundy’s second home, April 2022.
Google maps directions to Ann Maries house from the Bundy’s. “I had a feeling right then that I’d never see her again,” said Beverly Burr, Ann Marie’s mother.
The walk from little Ann Marie’s house to the University of Puget Sound was absurdly short, just a little over 0.1 miles.
A map of the Burrs neighborhood and where it was located compared to Bundy’s home and the University of Puget Sound, courtesy of Rebecca Morris.
The 1965/66 portion of the ‘The FBI Bundy Multiagency Investigative Team Report 1992’ showing he was at the University of Puget Sound in 1965/66.

Donna Gail Manson.

Donna Gail Manson was born on June 9, 1954 to Lyle Edward and Marie Elizabeth (nee Nilson) Manson in Olympia, WA. Mr. Manson was born on August 29, 1917 in Marion, Iowa and Mrs. Manson was born on May 9, 1923 in Auburn, WA. The couple were wed on December 4, 1952 and had two children together: Donna and her younger brother, James. An eagle scout and troop leader, Mr. Manson served in the Navy during World War II (he was a Pearl Harbor survivor), and upon returning home he continued with his education and graduated with his BA in music education from Coe College in June 1949; he went on to earn his Masters from Central Washington University in 1952 (which is the same college Susan Rancourt was abducted from), and after graduating he got a position as a music teacher for the Seattle school district. Marie Manson graduated from the University of Washington in 1949 with a BA in music education, and worked PT as a legal secretary; she was also the choir director at Auburn First United Methodist. Both Mr. and Mrs. Manson spent two years performing with the Seattle Philharmonic Orchestra.

Donna Manson is Ted Bundy’s third (known) victim. It was said by those that knew her that at the time she disappeared Donna was going through a rough time and was struggling with depression, but she showed interest in overcoming these obstacles. Despite suffering from bouts of melancholy and anxiety, Donna’s loved ones called her a ‘free spirit’ and said that she was known to hitchhike and frequently ‘couch surfed’ among friends. She was an intelligent young woman and earned good grades over the course of her academic career, and was working towards a Bachelors degree in English. Much like her parents, she loved music and the arts and was an accomplished flutist. Manson graduated from Auburn Senior High School in 1972 and attended Green River Community College for a short period of time before transferring to Evergreen State College. She had pale blue eyes and chocolate brown hair that she wore long and parted down the middle; she was small in stature and stood at only five feet tall, and weighed a mere 100 pounds.

The campus at Evergreen State College is less than ten miles east of Olympia and was built in an isolated, remote spot surrounded by a dense forest of evergreen trees. A small, liberal arts school, in the fall of 1974 its enrollment wasn’t even at 3,000, and some of the more conservative Washington state residents complained about its high per-student cost of operation and ‘hippie-like atmosphere.’ One lawmaker even complained during a speech about how the students’ dogs were peeing on the expensive carpets in the schools library (which was ironically named the Daniel J. Evans Library, after the state governor that Bundy worked for).

On the day of her abduction, Donna planned on going to a folk dancing class at her schools activities building, and later that same night, she made plans to go to a jazz concert at the Daniel J. Evans Library (which was also on school grounds), which was scheduled to start at 8 PM. She lived in room 206 of the C building on Evergreens campus, and according to her roommates earlier in the evening Donna played her flute a bit and ate some beef vegetable soup (she even left some of it out in a pot on the stove). They also noticed that she seemed unusually focused on her appearance that evening, going so far as to switch outfits several times before eventually settling on a red, orange, and green striped shirt, blue (or green) slacks, a fuzzy black full-length coat (that used to belong to her grandmother), an oval-shaped brown agate ring, and a Bulova Caravell wrist watch. Despite this detail, Manson did not share any details about a date or meet-up with her friends. The night prior to her disappearance Donna spoke with her mother on the phone, and the two discussed her idea of taking a trip to the ocean during her upcoming spring recess. Regarding this, Marie Manson said it sounded like a good idea that they get away for a few days, and despite the ongoing gas shortage of the 70’s said that the family would ‘find a way.’

Donna departed her dormitory shortly after 7 PM on March 12, 1974 and set out for the dance class, which should have been just a two minute walk across campus. However, despite how close the College Activities Building was to her dormitory no one recalled seeing her at either the class or the jazz recital, meaning it is highly unlikely that she ever made it that far. She left behind all of her personal effects, money, and clothing.

Perhaps it was because of her free spirit and habit of hitchhiking and leaving for days at a time, but when Manson didn’t return home that night no one seemed very alarmed: it took her roommates a full six days to report her missing to the authorities, which is why newspapers didn’t start reporting on her disappearance until March 22, 1974, a full ten days after she was last seen. Several days after her disappearance some local police officers went to the Manson family home in Auburn to tell them that Donna had run away from school, news that made her mother immediately feel uneasy, and she immediately knew that: ‘she hasn’t run away, something’s happened to her.’

Perhaps it was because of her free spirit, her habit to leave for days at a time, or her habit to hitchhike but when Manson didn’t come back that night no one was very alarmed. In fact, it took her roommates a full six days to report her missing to the authorities, which is why newspapers didn’t start reporting about her disappearance until March 22, a full ten days later. Following Donna’s disappearance, on four different occasions search teams of up to 200 people combed the 990 acre college campus with the assistance of tracking dogs. Despite their best efforts, investigators were unable to find not one single trace of the missing girl: she had literally vanished out of thin air.

After he got the news that his daughter was missing, Lyle Manson immediately drove to the Evergreen campus to see if he could find out more information about what may have happened to her. When he arrived, Thurston County Detective Paul Barclift tried to reassure him by saying: ‘maybe she just went off somewhere with some boyfriend. That’s the way these things usually turn out around here.’ Manson’s stern Scotsman’s face showed cold disagreement, and in response he said: ‘no, Donna had no need to run away. We’ve always given her freedom.’ He and the detective walked from the parking lot to her residence hall, and together they looked through the items in her bedroom: she had left behind all her clothes, toiletries, and other personal items one would need if leaving for any period of time, and amongst her belongings Mr. Manson found her camera and flute, and it was then that he knew that something was seriously wrong. Following Donna’s disappearance, search teams of up to 200 people combed the 990 acre college campus with the assistance of tracking dogs on four separate occasions, but despite their best efforts not one trace of her was ever recovered: she had literally vanished out of thin air.

The guard also told investigators that he remembered seeing Donna around campus prior to her disappearance and recalled that when he last saw her she was wearing a long fur coat, a fact that her roommates corroborated. This strongly hints that he wasn’t mistaken and did in fact see Manson on the night she was abducted, meaning that she either got sidetracked by something (or someone, like a man with his arm in a sling asking for help) on her way to the dance class, or she lied to her roommates about what her plans were. Many Bundy sleuths believe that Ted approached the 19-year-old asking for help as she was walking toward the library, where others strongly feel that the two may have been acquainted previously (somehow) and that they had made plans to meet up that night. He liked to frequent college campuses, did he go to Evergreen at an earlier time and run into Donna? Maybe the two planned a secret rendezvous and she told her roommates that she was going somewhere else in an attempt to get them off her back? Obviously they would have started asking questions had they known she was going out with a guy, and when they found out she had plans to meet up with a 27 year old that she barely knew, then surely they would have persuaded her to not go.

Donna was into many things that would typically be considered ‘mysterious and dark,’ and had an interest in topics like death, the occult, and alchemy; when investigators searched her room they found several class listings on positive thinking and mind discipline from a local Olympia business called ‘The Institute of Insight’ (casual Bundy acquaintance Ann Rule incorrectly referred to it as the ‘Institute of the ESP’ in her 1980 book ‘The Stranger Beside Me’). It was mostly because of Manson’s unconventional interests that detectives initially wondered if maybe she had killed herself, and it wasn’t until a psychiatrist read through her journals and said that it was in his professional opinion that she wasn’t suicidal and most likely did not take her own life that they changed their minds. Donna’s habit of hitchhiking put her in a higher risk pool compared to other coeds, and it was very concerning to detectives, who felt that there was a possibility that she was picked up by the individual that killed her. Because her roommates did not see her take a backpack or a change of clothes with her on the evening she disappeared, LE deduced that she was not planning on going anywhere that evening and had no plans on hitchhiking.

The most widely believed theory was that Bundy grabbed Donna in a Georgann Hawkins-esque grab as she was on her way to the dance class that evening in March 1974: the route that she most likely took from her dormitory to the folk dancing class was only 350 yards away, and should have only been about a two minute walk, and because of the short distance involved it has been theorized that Ted grabbed Manson almost immediately after she left. One possible scenario could be that he may have approached her (perhaps while using crutches or an arm sling) in a nearby parking lot (lot F) and asked her to assist him with carrying something to his car. Another idea is that Bundy parked his car on Hidden Springs Drive, which is close to the c-dormitory and connects the area around the library with Driftwood Road, and is incredibly close to the route that Donna would have walked to get to the folk dancing class. But because traffic on campus was unusually high that evening because of three different events taking place, it stands to reason that both areas would have been pretty busy at the time, and a careful Bundy wouldn’t have taken the chance of getting caught. But at the same time… he was a known risk taker, especially while under the influence of alcohol and marijuana, so we can’t completely rule it out (and keep in mind that it worked out for him).

Mostly because Olympia is over an hour away from where Bundy’s other Washington state victims were abducted from, Manson’s case was not immediately connected to the other Seattle disappearances, and it wasn’t until more women started to disappear that it became clear that her case was a part of a much bigger puzzle. There was a (brief) period where (former) Thurston County Sheriff Don Redmond wondered if maybe there was a slavery ring nabbing young women from the area, but this was quickly ruled out. Unfortunately, we will never know exactly what happened to Donna on the evening she disappeared, as there are very few confirmed details regarding her disappearance. Due to the abduction taking place right before spring break detectives were not able to interview many of the eyewitnesses until weeks later, after their memories were dulled by time (maybe if her roommates reported her abduction earlier LE would have stood a chance of getting some worthwhile information).

In his previous two abductions/murders, Bundy broke into his victims’ houses and assaulted them while they were sleeping, but in the case of Donna Manson he completely switched up his MO and took her from a public place… I also wonder if perhaps this was the first time that he used the fake injury ruse? The dates of credit card receipts that were listed in the ‘TB Multiagency Report 1992’ prove that Bundy frequented the Olympia area at least 25 times in 1973 alone, so it would be reasonable to assume that he knew the area fairly well; this also falls in line with the theory that (most) serial killers prefer to operate in places that they are familiar with, and feel comfortable being in.

On August 29, 1978 two fishermen that were walking on Highway 7 southwest of Eatonville, WA discovered a human skull in the foothills of Mount Rainier; further searches by local investigators turned up additional bones, hair, and clothes that matched the description of the ones that Donna Manson was last seen wearing four years prior. Unfortunately, law enforcement lost everything before a positive ID could be made (although apparently color photographs were taken) and to this day she is classified as a missing person. Bundy confessed to her murder as a last ditch effort to avoid the electric chair in January 1989 and told investigators that he buried her remains at Taylor Mountain but burned her skull to ashes in his then-girlfriends Liz’s fireplace. He also told Robert Keppel that he didn’t remember much about the event because he was so drunk but did recall that it was ‘nightmarish, blurry, and incoherent.’

Retired Pierce County detective Roy Durham said that he felt the bones did not appear to go back as far as 1974 and did not appear to suffer from any blunt force trauma to the head (which is common in Bundy victims). Unfortunately, the skeletal remains were destroyed after being examined by a forensic dentist (who determined there was a strong possibility that the skeleton belonged to Manson) and most additional information (such as x-rays) related to the case were lost during a ‘routine purge’ of the Pierce County Sheriff’s Department. Personally, I wonder if the remains found in 1978 belonged to a different (unknown) Bundy victim. I know people will argue that he was in prison by that time and wouldn’t have been able to commit a murder in his home state, but even law enforcement admitted they weren’t sure when victim was killed, just that it probably wasn’t in 1974. 

During Ted’s interview with Dr. Keppel he claimed that he left Manson’s body ‘up in the mountains,’ and although it was the same place where he disposed of Brenda Ball, Lynda Ann Healy, Susan Rancourt and Roberta Parks, he specified that he left her in a slightly different place than the others:

Keppel: ‘OK. How about Donna Manson? The girl from Thurston County, Olympia. Where is she?’
B: ‘Where is she? She should be… on Taylor Mountain.’
K: ‘Was she dumped out along the power line too or on a different road?’
B: ‘That was different. That was different.’
K: ‘What was different about it?’
B: ‘Well, where she was, relative to the power line road.’
K: ‘You told me before that Donna might be buried.’
B: ‘Yea. Do you have any pictures of the site?’

Bundy then pointed out a spot on a map where he thinks he left Donna’s remains, but clarified that search teams would never find her skull because it was ‘nowhere’ (Bundy’s words, not mine). When Keppel pressed Ted about that he claimed to have completely incinerated it then vacuumed up the ash that remained behind. Later searches of that area failed to find anything related to a human skeleton (keep in mind he admitted to being inebriated at the time of the abduction so he probably directed them to the wrong place). He explained: ‘it’s a lot of work and certainly very risky, under the circumstances. I mean, the kids come home from school and there’s a roaring fire in the fireplace and it’s warm outside.’

Now, there are holes in that story so big I can drive my VW Beetle through them: throughout the duration of his murder spree Bundy was (surprisingly) good about avoiding detection (although I firmly believe he may never have been caught if he wasn’t such a shitty driver), so I have a really hard time believing that he smuggled an entire HUMAN HEAD into his girlfriend’s apartment (which goes without saying is a huge risk). Additionally, burning a skull in a residential fireplace would not have been an easy feat: in order to transform human bone into ash, the fire would need to get to somewhere between 1,500 and 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit (which can be done with the use of an accelerant), and even if he was able to get it that hot, there would still be pieces of bone left behind.

What I think most likely happened: Ted attempted to burn Donna’s skull in Liz’s apartment but partway through realized how difficult of an ordeal it was (plus, burnt hair smells ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE, and at the time of her murder she had a lot of it) and took the pieces that didn’t turn to ash and disposed of them in a different way (as awful as this sounds, perhaps they were so small he was able to put them in the household garbage?). Another reason to doubt Bundy’s story is that he said it was ‘warm outside’ when be burned the skull, and according to records the temperature range during the week after Mansons disappearance in Seattle was between 49°F to 57°F, and it remained on the cooler side until March 26th. So, that makes me think Ted was either lying about the weather or he got his dates mixed up and the event took place roughly two weeks after the murder. It is often wondered if Bundy made up the incident entirely just to hurt Kloepfer, who had cut all ties with him by the time he shared that information… but, at the end of the day, he was a habitual liar that rarely told the truth. And let’s say this ONE TIME Ted wasn’t lying: he has evaded telling anyone what really happened for so long, why would anyone actually believe him (especially when he was trying to avoid the electric chair). Keep in mind that only minutes before he told Keppel about incinerating Manson’s skull, he cracked a ‘joke’ about how much press his confession would generate.

The following is a conversation between Bundy and Robert Keppel regarding Manson:
Robert Keppel: ‘What about Donna Mason?’
Bundy: ‘I won’t beat around the bush with you anymore because I’m just tired and want to get back to sleep. So let me tell you, I know part of her is buried up there, the head however, wouldn’t be there.’
RK: ‘Where is it now?’
TB: ‘It’s nowhere. I’m not trying to be flippant. It’s in a category all by itself. It was incinerated. It was an exception, a strange exception.’
RK: ‘Where did you incinerate it?’
TB: ‘I promised myself I’d never tell this. In her fire place. That’s not really that humorous , but I mean , the fireplace at her house… that was the twist . It’s a lot of work and certainly very risky, under the circumstances. I mean, the kids come home from school, there’s a roaring fire in the fireplace, and it’s warm outside.’

On August 28th, 1978, two fishermen discovered the skeleton of a young female in the foothills of Mount Rainier near Eatonville, about 60 miles away from Bundy’s Taylor Mountain dump site. Despite multiple newspapers reporting that the missing skeleton belonged to Manson, the facts do not seem to line up: ‘The News Tribune’ reported that the skeleton Pierce County sheriffs discovered was 5’7”, and Donna was only 5 feet tall. Also, the remains were discovered wearing blue jeans, where Donna’s roommates said she was wearing a pair of green (or blue) pants the night she disappeared. Investigators also showed photographs of the clothing found on the skeleton to Manson’s parents and her mother was quick to say that she didn’t recognize the top as belonging to her daughter. The report also said the victim was somewhere between 12 and 17 years old where Donna was 19 at the time she disappeared.

Mr. Manson passed away on December 31, 2007; Donna’s mother died on May 26, 2014 in Auburn, WA. James Manson is still alive and currently lives in Seattle; he is the owner of ‘Axis Stainless Fabrication,’ and works with metal, and just by doing some quick research it appears that he is an expert in his field and has his work on display at the Seattle Art Museum. It doesn’t surprise me that Donna’s brother turned into a successful artist, it’s in his genes.

Donna Manson, clad in the long black coat that she was last seen wearing. Photo courtesy of the Thurston County Sheriff’s Department.
Donna Manson.
Donna Manson’s student identification photo from 1973.
Donna Manson.
Donna Manson.
A picture of Donna Manson. Photo courtesy of the Thurston County Sheriff’s Department.
Donna Manson.
Donna Manson and an unknown male friend. Photo courtesy of the Thurston County Sheriff’s Department.
A picture of a friend that Donna Manson took. Photo courtesy of the Thurston County Sheriff’s Department.
Another picture of a friend that Donna Manson took. Photo courtesy of the Thurston County Sheriff’s Department.
Another picture that Manson took of a friend. Photo courtesy of the Thurston County Sheriff’s Department.
Some pictures Donna Manson took. Photo courtesy of the Thurston County Sheriff’s Department..
A hand-written note card from Donna Manson to her parents. Photo courtesy of Erin Banks/CrimePiper.
A typed letter from Donna to a friend named Sally W. in Indonesia; it was found on her desk but never mailed. Photo courtesy of Erin Banks/CrimePiper.
A letter to Marie Manson from Donna’s friend, Megan Ellis. Photo courtesy of the Thurston County Sheriff’s Department/’hi: I’m Ted.’

A note found in Donna’s room. Photo courtesy of the Thurston County Sheriff’s Department/’hi: Im Ted.’
A newspaper clipping about Donna Manson’s disappearance.
The front of an article published by the Cooper Point Journal on July 11, 1974; as you can see, Donna is featured on the front. Photo courtesy of the Evergreen State College Archives.
A blurb on the jazz concert that Donna was planning on attending from the Evergreen State College newsletter published on March 8, 1974. Photo courtesy of OddStops.
The Evergreen State College Newsletter from the week of March 11, 1974 mentioning the jazz concert Donna was planning on attending. Photo courtesy of the Evergreen State College Archives.
An excerpt from Donna Manson’s police report. Photo courtesy of ThisInterestsMe.
Thurston County Sheriff Don Redmond floated the theory that Donna’s disappearance was related to a white slavery ring. Photo courtesy of ThisInterestsMe.
A page from Donna Manson’s missing persons report.
A blurb from Donna’s missing persons report.
A memo from Evergreen Campus Security Chief Rod Marrom to Thurston County Detective Paul Barclift. Photo courtesy of the Thurston County Sheriff’s Department/’hi: I’m Ted.’
A letter to the Thurston County Sheriff’s Department related to the Manson case.
A handwritten report about Donna’s disappearance from the Thurston County Sheriffs Department.
An aerial view of the Evergreen State College campus from 1974.
A: Residence halls.
B: Library.
C: C&N Road. 
Photo courtesy of the Evergreen State College Archives.
An old 1970’s b&w picture of Evergreen State College.
An old 1970’s b&w picture of Evergreen State College.
A path to residence halls from the 1970’s. Photo courtesy of the Evergreen State College Archives.
A more rural area of the Evergreen State campus. Photo courtesy of the Evergreen State College Archives.
Evergreen State College.
A security booth at Evergreen State College.
One of the entrances to Evergreen State College.
Evergreen State College.
Evergreen State College.
A sign for the Daniel J. Evans Library at Evergreen State College.
The Daniel J. Evans Library at Evergreen State College.
The Daniel J. Evans Library at Evergreen State College; the concert took place on the first floor.
The entrance of the Daniel J. Evans Library at Evergreen State College.
The Daniel J. Evans Library at Evergreen State College.
The windows at the Daniel J. Evans Library at Evergreen State College.
A student reading outside Dorm C from the 1970’s. Photo courtesy of the Evergreen State College Archives.
The entrance to the dorms at Evergreen State College; Donna lived in the ‘C-building,’ and her exact mailing address was ‘4319 Indian Pipe Loop NW / ℅ Evergreen State College / Olympia WA, 98505.
The dorms at Evergreen State College
The dorms at Evergreen State College.
The C-dorm at Evergreen State College where Donna Manson lived when she was murdered.
A trail at Evergreen State College.
A trail behind the dorms at Evergreen State College.
A trail behind the dormitories at Evergreen State College.
The bridge on Madrona Beach Road at Perry Creek from November 2018. Photo courtesy of Google Maps.
A display of the trails available to walk on the Evergreen State College campus.
A display at Evergreen State College.
A display at Evergreen State College.
A map of Evergreen State College.
A map of Evergreen State College.
A map of Evergreen State College.
This old map of the Evergreen State College campus is from the 1975–1977 course catalog; the relevant locations are notated with red dots. Photo courtesy of OddStops.
The News Tribune broke the story about the missing skeletons on December 2nd, 1996. Photo courtesy of ‘ThisInterestsMe.’
At the time of her disappearance Donna lived in room 206 in the C building. Photo courtesy of ‘ThisInterestsMe.’
This satellite map shows the most likely route that Donna Manson took while she was walking between her dorm room and the library area. Photo courtesy of OddStops.
This aerial image shows the College Activities Building and the library. Photo courtesy of OddStops.
Another theory surrounding Donna Manson’s abduction is that Bundy parked his car on Hidden Springs Drive, which connects the area around the library with Driftwood Road to the north. It is also very close to the route she would have taken the night she vanished. Photo courtesy of OddStops.
This aerial image illustrates how close Manson’s dorm building was to Parking Lot F; its roughly a five minute walk. Photo courtesy of OddStops.
This route is only 0.1 miles long: less than two minute walk. Photo courtesy of ‘ThisInterestsMe.’
This aerial map shows Donna’s dorm, Parking Lot F, and the C&N road that she was seen walking along (the buildings above the C&N road were digitally removed because they did not exist at the time of Donna’s disappearance). Photo courtesy of OddStops.
In police reports, the road is labelled as C&N Road and on Google Maps it is called Overhulse Place. Photo courtesy of ‘ThisInterestsMe.’
This is a section of the pathway between Donna’s dorm and the library; the red arrow points in the direction she would have been walking in. Photo courtesy of OddStops.
When she wasn’t staying at her college dorm Donna lived at this home at 124 O St NE in Auburn with her parents at the time of her disappearance.
Taylor Mountain, April 2022.
An article about Donna’s disappearance published in The News Tribune. It was published on March 22, 1974, ten days after she disappeared.
An article on Donna from The Daily Olympian published on March 24, 1974.
An article about the search for Donna Manson published in The Olympian on March 24, 1974.
An article about Donna’s disappearance published in The Daily Herald on March 30, 1974.
An article about Donna Manson published in The Daily Olympian on March 30, 1974.
An article about Donna Manson published in The Daily Chronicle on March 30, 1974.
An article on Donna Manson’s disappearance from The Daily Olympian published on April 2, 1974.
A newspaper blurb about a reward for any information leading to the discovery of Donna Manson published in The Daily Chronicle on April 3, 1974.
An article mentioning Donna’s disappearance published in The Daily Chronicle on April 6, 1974.
The first part of an article about Donna Manson published by The Auburn Globe-News on April 17, 1974.
The second part of an article about Donna Manson published by The Auburn Globe-News on April 17, 1974.
An article about the missing Washington state coeds that mentions Donna published in The News Tribune on May 29, 1974.
An article about Donna’s disappearance published in The Olympian on June 18, 1974.
An article about mentioning Donna published in The Spokane Chronicle on June 19, 1974; the victim they’re referring to is actually Brenda Joy Baker.
An article mentioning Donna’s disappearance published in The Olympian on July 2, 1974.
An article about the missing Washington state coeds mentioning Donna published in The Columbian on July 3, 1974.
An article mentioning Donna’s disappearance published in The News Tribune on July 5, 1974.
An article mentioning Donna’s disappearance published in The News Tribune on July 28, 1974.
The first part of an article published by the Cooper Point Journal on August 11, 1974. Photo courtesy of the Evergreen State College Archives.
The second part of an article published by the Cooper Point Journal on August 11, 1974. Photo courtesy of the Evergreen State College Archives.
An article about the missing Seattle woman published in The Longview Daily News on August 27, 1974.
An article about the Issaquah dump site mentioning Donna Manson that was published in The News Tribune on September 13, 1974.
An article mentioning the disappearance of Donna Manson published by The Kitsap Sun on September 14, 1974.
An article about a murdered coed from Evergreen State that mentions Donna Manson published in The News Tribune on•October 4, 1974.
An article about Donna’s disappearance in The Daily-Herald-Tribune on March 5, 1975.
An article about Donna’s disappearance in The Spokesman-Review on March 8, 1975.
An article about Donna’s disappearance in The Daily Chronicle on March 14, 1975.
An article that mentions the disappearance of Donna Manson published in The News Tribune on March 18, 1975.
An article mentioning Donna’s disappearance in The Spokesman-Review on October 16, 1975.
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An article about the remains that were found in the foothills of Mount Rainier in August 1978 that mentions Donna Manson.
Seven of the eight Seattle Bundy victims… notice anyone missing? Detectives were hesitant to include Brenda Ball in with the other girls because she was a little older than them and not a college student (also she was away from a college setting and was a known hitchhiker). Ironically hers was the first skull found on Taylor Mountain.
A map of where the missing Washington women went missing compared to one another. Picture courtesy of the King County Archives.
An picture of the suspect from an article published by The Cooper Point Journal on August 8, 1974. Photo courtesy of the Evergreen State College Archives.
A missing poster for Donna Manson. Photo courtesy of ‘hi: I’m Ted.’
A missing poster for Donna Manson. photo courtesy of ‘Ted Bundy: I was Trying to Think like an Elk.’

A missing poster for Donna Manson. Photo courtesy of ‘hi: I’m Ted.’
Photo courtesy of the Thurston County Sheriff’s Department/’hi: I’m Ted.’
A photo of Ted and Liz cuddling in front of the fireplace he may have used to incinerate Donna Manson’s skull. Photo courtesy of Liz Kloepfer.
A graph of the temperature range in Seattle from March 1974. Photo courtesy of OddStops.
Information about ‘The Institute of Insight,’ photo courtesy of Captain Borax.
Information about classes offered at ‘The Institute of Insight,’ photo courtesy of Captain Borax.
Information about classes offered at ‘The Institute of Insight,’ photo courtesy of Captain Borax.
A World War II Bonus Case File related to Lyle Edward Manson.
Donna’s parents marriage certificate from December 1952.
A short newspaper blurb about Lyle Manson published in The Gazette on November 9, 1941.
Mr. Manson from the 1953 Auburn High School yearbook.
Donna Manson’s father Lyle in 1956, sadly he passed away in December of 2007 after a long battle with Parkinson’s disease. Photo courtesy of Erin Banks.
Donna Manson’s father Lyle. Photo courtesy of Erin Banks.
A newspaper blurb from a Seattle fishing club mentioning Lyle Manson.
The gravestone of Lyle Manson.
Marie Manson’s junior year photo from the 1940 Auburn High School yearbook.
Donna’s parents wedding announcement published in The Gazette on November 30, 1952.
A picture of Donna Manson’s Mother, Marie Elizabeth (nee Nilson) Manson was born on May 9, 1923 and passed on May 6, 2014 at the age of 91. Photo courtesy of findagrave.
Donna’s Mother, Marie Elizabeth (nee Nilson) Manson. Photo courtesy of FindaGrave.
James Manson’s senior year picture from the 1978 Auburn High School yearbook.
A more recent picture of James Manson. Photo courtesy of Facebook.
Some of Jim Manson’s artwork. Photo courtesy of Facebook.
Ted Bundy and a dog.
A Google Maps view of how to get from the Rogers Rooming House to Evergreen State College.
An article published by the Cooper Point Journal on October 16, 1975 after Bundy’s arrest. Photo courtesy of the Evergreen State College Archives.
Bundy’s activities on March 12, 1974 according to the ‘TB Multiagency Investigative Team Report.’